New stadium deal underway???

Deank wrote:judging by those pictures the entire maintenance staff and the entire board needs to be fired for letting things like that mould build up


no excuse for letting stuff like routine maintenance slip in such a building.

Haven't you noticed how bad all city facilities are lately, thanks to the tax freeze

no actually I have not.

i did notice however that my portion of school taxes keeps growing and growing without actually giving me anything more

Deank wrote:..........
i did notice however that my portion of school taxes keeps growing and growing without actually giving me anything more

Wrongo. You've been given more teachers with fatter salaries and more expensive school trustees.

So, shut up and be grateful.

ahh my bad

Heh...remember...it's all about safety.....no wait.....it's all about the children.

Yes but the city doe,s not control those one is the story I hear , Teachers

thats my point PAV.. you are saying the roads are crumbling because of the tax freeze. I disagree but did notice that my school taxes keep increasing and yet I get nothing extra there... trying to counter your point that increased taxes are a good thing.

What has roads and school tax got to do with each other ?

Never mind I got it slow this morning no increases have led to the lack of maintenance in most buildings especially cc,s. School tax well they are given a licence to print money with no real control . That system needs to be completely over hauled .

A Tax Revolt perhaps???

LIVE: Sod turns on new stadium
Today marks 'historic' moment for Bombers, sports community
By: Ed Tait | Winnipeg Free Press
20/05/2010 1:00 AM | Comments: 0

A piece of sod gets turned, a ribbon is cut, politicians and heavy hitters smile for the cameras.
And -- most importantly for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers -- a financial lifeline starts to become reality.
It's ceremonial to be sure, but today's scheduled sod-turning for the new football stadium at the corner of Chancellor Matheson Road and University Crescent is a significant day in the Bombers' 80-year existence and for the local sporting community.
"It's historic for this franchise," said Bomber president Jim Bell. "We have some certainty now. I can remember back to the various studies that were done all in the best interest of doing the due diligence, but after awhile I think some apathy set in as people wondered if it was ever going to happen.
"But now that we have a sod turning we're actually moving toward the new venue and it's tremendous."
There are the obvious benefits a new facility brings to the football club, to the University of Manitoba Bisons football program and amateur sports. But specifically for the Bombers, the building's 2012 scheduled opening -- construction should begin sometime next month -- couldn't come at a more critical time.
Not only is Canad Inns Stadium antiquated and in constant need of repair, the organization is also coming off a 2009 operating loss of $1.2 million while the possible return of the NHL could mean the football club will be battling to squeeze every dime out of the community and the facility it can.
The new stadium will have 33,000 seats and 40 private suites -- the current facility has a capacity of 29,500 and two suites -- as well as a number of loge boxes (rentable rooms on the suite level) and hospitality areas that will generate many more dollars for the club on game day.
There will be video boards, increased signage both inside and outside the building for potential advertisers, vastly improved concessions and an on-site restaurant that will operate year-round. The current stadium naming rights deal with Canad Inns also expires at the end of this season and revenue from any new deal will also be significant.
"With all due respect to this old stadium, the opportunities are limited here," said Bell. "The new venue really opens it up to potential suitors and those are significant dollars.
"To make money here now we have very little wiggle room. But when you've got suites, primary naming rights, secondary naming rights... it just adds so much more. It gives us a real opportunity to sustain and grow the business."
But with today's announcement also come some meaty questions that need to be answered, especially under the terms of the complicated stadium financing agreement with the club, the governments and David Asper's Creswin Properties.
The Bombers have established a stadium committee to work with Creswin and key among the issues that need to be addressed ASAP is how to continue operating the franchise in one facility while preparing to move into another. After all, the team can't just show up in the spring of 2012 and move into the new joint -- it needs to be marketed well in advance of the opening.
What is being discussed now is how to handle that transition -- how many more staff might need to be hired, for example -- and who would pay for it all.
"I call it Project A and Project 1A with what we've got going on at our stadium this year and with the new facility," Bell said. "We have to keep our focus on everything that is involved with the football season, but at the same time we've got to work toward making sure we're meeting deadlines and working with the developer at the new facility."
"This is an immense undertaking," added Asper. "The stadium itself is conceived as a community asset for use by the whole community. The Bombers are large beneficiaries, but so are the Bisons, the University of Manitoba and amateur users... they're all integral to the plan. That's a whole different business.
"(The sod-turning) essentially kicks off what is going to be a very intensive process."

Lookin good!!!!

"(The sod-turning) essentially kicks off what is going to be a very intensive expensive process."

....and a needless one.

That design stinks....looks like the roof isn't finished, or is going to fly off with a strong wind...



If we're gonna be forced to pay for this thing, could it at least look a little more professional?

Well....it's a "pretending" roof...just like the need for the entire building...a "pretending need".

I won't support the Bombers if Asker has anything to do with the team. Period. Full stop.

JTF wrote:Well....it's a "pretending" roof...just like the need for the entire building...a "pretending need".

I won't support the Bombers if Asker has anything to do with the team. Period. Full stop.

Well lucky you, come 2016 that wont be a problem because there is no way in hell he is going to pay his 90 mill for the team.

JT Estoban wrote:That design stinks....looks like the roof isn't finished, or is going to fly off with a strong wind...



If we're gonna be forced to pay for this thing, could it at least look a little more professional?

But that's the thing. Design is very subjective. Change the design to suit one and maybe the next guy hates that design.

Deank wrote:

JTF wrote:Well....it's a "pretending" roof...just like the need for the entire building...a "pretending need".

I won't support the Bombers if Asker has anything to do with the team. Period. Full stop.

Well lucky you, come 2016 that wont be a problem because there is no way in hell he is going to pay his 90 mill for the team.

He may be going to momma for some much-needed cash...and she in turn is trying to raise some....by selling her "vacation home".

http://www.nationalpost.com/multimedia/photos/gallery/index.html?id=3048332

While I kinda' understand the skepticism... We (the taxpayer) are not on the hook for (most of) this, YET. Asper is. And until time comes when he defaults is it possible to cut the dude a break?

That said, the need for this stadium is arguable. The existing stadium is a stinking cesspool. An embarrassment to the city. Perhaps the stadium needs only a paltry $12 million to fix the chronic problems. All that will accomplish is akin to putting a little lipstick on a stinking cesspool.

You cut the arrogant prick a break. Did you hear his comment about doing us a favour?

Arrogant prick? WTF? That just seems so hateful and angry. Did an Asper piss in your cornflakes while growing up?

Once again, my expectations have been met...

grumpy old man wrote:But that's the thing. Design is very subjective. Change the design to suit one and maybe the next guy hates that design.

Point made, and taken.

IMO, it looks like a scaled back version, something dressed up. The sandbox banner picture is more in line with what everyone (re: me) was expecting...

Oh well, this blight will be in the south end now...let them eat their cake!

grumpy old man wrote:While I kinda' understand the skepticism... We (the taxpayer) are not on the hook for (most of) this, YET. Asper is. And until time comes when he defaults is it possible to cut the dude a break?

That said, the need for this stadium is arguable. The existing stadium is a stinking cesspool. An embarrassment to the city. Perhaps the stadium needs only a paltry $12 million to fix the chronic problems. All that will accomplish is akin to putting a little lipstick on a stinking cesspool.

and yet, less then 10 years ago it was being touted as just perfectly fine, so much so that Leo's original idea to build a new one was simply tossed out because one was not needed.

Despite what the naysayers say, I'm glad this is going through. I actually like the design and it will be a great addition to the Bombers, the U of M and Winnipeg in general. Congratulations Winnipeg, you deserve this.

And to all the naysayers who want to pick apart this post..............flame away.

Deank wrote:

grumpy old man wrote:While I kinda' understand the skepticism... We (the taxpayer) are not on the hook for (most of) this, YET. Asper is. And until time comes when he defaults is it possible to cut the dude a break?

That said, the need for this stadium is arguable. The existing stadium is a stinking cesspool. An embarrassment to the city. Perhaps the stadium needs only a paltry $12 million to fix the chronic problems. All that will accomplish is akin to putting a little lipstick on a stinking cesspool.

and yet, less then 10 years ago it was being touted as just perfectly fine, so much so that Leo's original idea to build a new one was simply tossed out because one was not needed.

None-the-less it is a stinking cesspool today.

[quote="JTF"]

Deank wrote:

JTF wrote:Well....it's a "pretending" roof...just like the need for the entire building...a "pretending need".

I won't support the Bombers if Asker has anything to do with the team. Period. Full stop.

Well lucky you, come 2016 that wont be a problem because there is no way in hell he is going to pay his 90 mill for the team.

He may be going to momma for some much-needed cash...and she in turn is trying to raise some....by selling her "vacation home".

http://www.nationalpost.com/multimedia/photos/gallery/index.html?id=3048332[/quote]

Beautiful home but the interior decorator should be tarred and feathered. I have to wonder how some people can be so wealthy and yet be soooooo incredibly tacky.

Gotta love the leapord print rug in the library lmfao. That's pure class.

grumpyrom wrote:Gotta love the leapord print rug in the library lmfao. That's pure class.

hey...it matches the throw-pillows on the couch.