Drunks Force Downtown Winnipeg Business to Close

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The NDP did it! I guess the NDP has caused all those poor people onto the streets?

JTF wrote:I'm speaking to the issue of "revitalization".

We started to "revitalize" Main Street about 40 years ago and have only managed to shift the problems to Portage Avenue.

Now, we are "revitalizing" Portage Avenue.

Any bets on where "the problems" will go to next?

It's been expanding/shifting to Osborne Vilalge since 1999.
I set the intention that it reverse itself, and move back northwards.
We must protect the south end, at all costs.

Huh? Excuse me?

jimj_wpg wrote:It's been expanding/shifting to Osborne Vilalge since 1999. I set the intention that it reverse itself, and move back northwards. We must protect the south end, at all costs.

Indeed. Keep the bums and derelicts in the north end where they belong.

Spoiler:

well then.....thank goodness I am in historic Point Douglas!

Point Douglas is saved, the soon-to-be-former GG apparently likes you guys. (Haiti was just too expensive to take on as a cause.)

Hallefrigginlujah!!! I just don't know what we would have done if she had not come along!

Miz point wrote:Hallefrigginlujah!!! I just don't know what we would have done if she had not come along!

mayhaps gotten an empty greenspace named after you instead?

You are truly blessed. Maybe she can bring the Navy with her!!

ps Don't tell DeanK, he has the hots for her.

Too late.

nothing wrong with our Hot Gov gen.. except she is married.

She goes for guys with onion and garlic breath.

SWEET!!!.

maybe I should put my pants back on before going to meet her?

Deank wrote:

Miz point wrote:Hallefrigginlujah!!! I just don't know what we would have done if she had not come along!

mayhaps gotten an empty greenspace named after you instead?

No....where do you get that notion from? Hmmmm? I would rather the park had her name than the name of someone just because they were of a certain ethnic origin.

Deank wrote:SWEET!!!.

maybe I should put my pants back on before going to meet her?

No. I don't think that's necessary.

grumpy old man wrote:

jimj_wpg wrote:It's been expanding/shifting to Osborne Vilalge since 1999. I set the intention that it reverse itself, and move back northwards. We must protect the south end, at all costs.

Indeed. Keep the bums and derelicts in the north end where they belong.

Spoiler:

Sarcasm. I get it.

Geeze that sounds familiar. Where did I read that recently? Anyone? Anyone?

Spoiler:

This is a tough issue for the Downtown stakeholders to address. Primarily, because it takes public money, and will.

From the BIZ perspective we are doing as much as we can, as a business community, undertaking our own programming and advocating for change.

We are only one small voice, doing our share. But let us know if we are on the right track, and what else we can do.

BIZ Programs
The BIZ Outreach Program
We require the continued support from government to extend this program. The BIZ helps over 3000 intoxicated people per year, off the street and into a safer place. This is a tool to only manage the issue. We provide outreach as well, connecting those at risk with the proper service agencies.

http://www.downtownwinnipegbiz.com/home/programs/community_outreach/

MOST – Mission off the Street
Helping those at risk through employment. We would like to see government provide more training / education and employment to those at risk. The BIZ can play a role in placing these people into downtown jobs, when they are ready and able.

http://www.downtownwinnipegbiz.com/home/programs/most_program/

BIZ Advocacy
At every opportunity we advocate for the following strategies:

-Supportive Housing (housing first)
-On the street and intensive counseling
-More policing
-Employment

"We would like to see government provide more training / education and employment to those at risk. "

at risk of what?

Chronic substance abusers, the violent types, are difficult to "rehabilitate". Like the old bit of wisdom states, you cannot force someone to dry out....that is a decision they have to make on their own in order for any recovery to happen.

Perhaps a facility far away from the downtown is the best place for those types? Like in PlaP or Selkirk. Nice restful facilities. Safe for the abusers and more to the point safe for the downtowners...

Deank wrote:"We would like to see government provide more training / education and employment to those at risk. "

at risk of what?

At risk of themselves, from living on the street...

Exactly GOM as some of us who live near downtown are getting really sick and tired of seeing our neighbourhood become a catchment area for treatment facilities and clinics.....move the addicts away from the sources of their addictions otherwise money is being wasted. I get so sick and tired of policies that are implemented with little thought for those who may be impacted in adverse ways.

grumpy old man wrote:Perhaps a facility far away from the downtown is the best place for those types? Like in PlaP or Selkirk. Nice restful facilities. Safe for the abusers and more to the point safe for the downtowners...

Like this
http://carleton.ca/Capital_News/26031999/n4.htm
I am aware of the good work at the Selkirk Healing Centre too.
More facilities like this would help I am sure.

I was in picking up some pain pills at Meyer's Drugs, on William and Isabel, and was joking with the owner about his sign about no oxycontrin being available at the drugsyore. He told me that every where around the store, there were addicts. The pill is selling for $75 a pill, and I have about 40 of them from last year that i haven't used because of their after effect on me!
I took one and I wanted to go dancing with my wife, so I put them away in a drawer. Way to dangerous!.lol