Biggest Problem Facing Winnipeg

grumpy old man wrote:If you endorse the rights of someone to not work to support himself then I support you paying for his right. I also support your continued payments to support those that cannot support themselves. The rest of us would willingly support those that cannot support themselves also. That is reasonable.

But don't ever ask me to support the lazy assholes who will not support themselves.

Look what this friggen socialist government has wrought! Holy frick. We now have people saying it is acceptable to leach off society. And they are NOT kidding!

egomaniac wrote:

Triniman wrote:Workfare. Worth it?

I support a system that allows people with mental and physical disabilities to be funded by the state. It ain't my fault that im sick (being sick for the last 10 years, let me tell you, if there weren't any government funding for me, i would never have been able to survive it). In this case, its a "good thing".
Now... do support another individuals wish to sit on his couch and watch tv all day? Why not. I don't think work should be mandatory in a society. If i don't want to work all day, i should still be able to survive in a modest amount of comfort. Im not going to get as rich as somebody who does work all day, but who cares. Provide enough for my family and i to survive ("enough" not "more than enough") and i should be allowed to be glued to that couch all day long if i want.
I guess what im arguing for is a society that supports a persons wishes rather than the needs of the city. A society is a diverse group -- there will always be people that want to work to get ahead. There will always be people that would rather be on their couch.
who's to say which life should be supported and which life shouldn't.
crowely's "do what that will" statement comes back to us here.

grumpy old man wrote:Ummmm, cheque days...

EdWin wrote:

egomaniac wrote:

Triniman wrote:Workfare. Worth it?

I support a system that allows people with mental and physical disabilities to be funded by the state. It ain't my fault that im sick (being sick for the last 10 years, let me tell you, if there weren't any government funding for me, i would never have been able to survive it). In this case, its a "good thing".
Now... do support another individuals wish to sit on his couch and watch tv all day? Why not. I don't think work should be mandatory in a society. If i don't want to work all day, i should still be able to survive in a modest amount of comfort. Im not going to get as rich as somebody who does work all day, but who cares. Provide enough for my family and i to survive ("enough" not "more than enough") and i should be allowed to be glued to that couch all day long if i want.
I guess what im arguing for is a society that supports a persons wishes rather than the needs of the city. A society is a diverse group -- there will always be people that want to work to get ahead. There will always be people that would rather be on their couch.
who's to say which life should be supported and which life shouldn't.
crowely's "do what that will" statement comes back to us here.

Wow, what a crock of sh1t. I sure as hell am not willing to support any lazy people who wish to sponge off of hard working individual busting their asses to make something of their lives. I can't believe what I just read here.

grumpy old man wrote:Ummmm, cheque days...

Miz point wrote:

umcrouc0 wrote:So you're saying that the next generation could wind up being stuck in the system because of social and/or medical issues. What about the current generation?

Oh come on.....you know the answer to your own question for crying out loud....those that are "stuck" in the system will most likely have offspring that will suffer that same fate.....we are witness to that at present and in the past.....I hate to generalize and not have the latest stats in front of me but tell ya what.....come for a walk with me sometime on check days.....that is always educational.

Miz point wrote:I have met folks in this province who have deliberately gotten pregnant either to keep receiving monies or other insidious reasons....wonder how many of these kids being made right now are the result of drunken romps where no consideration or care is given if ever to the use of the myriad of birth control methods out there?

There is no argument to be had here....just a plain statement of what can be observed in this province on a daily basis. I could fill pages with discourse regarding the problems that exist, discuss why they perhaps exist and hell yeah, even offer up suggestions that are not necessarily draconian.

death128 wrote:And people have problems and don't work and still pay taxes in a way...

death128 wrote:And people have problems and don't work and still pay taxes in a way...

Miz point wrote:

death128 wrote:And people have problems and don't work and still pay taxes in a way...

yeah, in what way???? Those who live below a LICO get GST rebate checks.....and other checks and subsidized medical, dental, pharma, optical......

egomaniac wrote:

Triniman wrote:Workfare. Worth it?

I support a system that allows people with mental and physical disabilities to be funded by the state. It ain't my fault that im sick (being sick for the last 10 years, let me tell you, if there weren't any government funding for me, i would never have been able to survive it). In this case, its a "good thing".
Now... do support another individuals wish to sit on his couch and watch tv all day? Why not. I don't think work should be mandatory in a society. If i don't want to work all day, i should still be able to survive in a modest amount of comfort. Im not going to get as rich as somebody who does work all day, but who cares. Provide enough for my family and i to survive ("enough" not "more than enough") and i should be allowed to be glued to that couch all day long if i want.
I guess what im arguing for is a society that supports a persons wishes rather than the needs of the city. A society is a diverse group -- there will always be people that want to work to get ahead. There will always be people that would rather be on their couch.
who's to say which life should be supported and which life shouldn't.
crowely's "do what that will" statement comes back to us here.

Goth_chic wrote:I don't get GST and I have to pay tax instead of receiving a refund.

death128 wrote:

Goth_chic wrote:I don't get GST and I have to pay tax instead of receiving a refund.

Ahhh but you probably have a two-income household and your hubby is probably claiming the children.

death128 wrote:Even the criminals create jobs for police and judges and lawyers. Wait? Who's working right now?