HOW WILL IT MAKE THINGS BETTER?

Deank wrote:Its a little dated obviously.. but from their own website...

"Ultimately all decisions related to content, buidling, programming and operations will rest with the Board that is yet to be appointed by the Government."

in other words at one time a board which had yet to be appointed would decide what was going to happen.... yup.. thats a great plan.

That board has been appointed now...if I remember correctly a guy named Patrick Riley is in charge of it. (I'm not 100% sure on that name...and I don't feel like searching for it right now.

The people who support the museum are supporting the concept of the museum and what it represents. They support the idea and dream that a museum with the purpose of defending "Human Rights" is a good thing...so a "typical" business plan is not required to raise money for it.

There are two groups running the museum project:

The dreamers...who are the fundraisers...with a single task of committing enough money to put the financial planning to a sufficient level. This is headed by Gail Asper.

The planners...who are in charge of deciding the building plans, the content, the infrastructure. This is headed by the guy I mentioned before (again...still not sure on the name).

There is NO way to prove if the museum itself will benefit society, but ANY platform or resource which can challenge Human Rights issues...and which can help to promote peace and educate the people....will provide benefits to at least 1 person...and by benefiting 1 person, the potential is there to benefit more...and to have that benefit pass on exponentially.

Is this museum going to STOP oppression? No...noone is naive enough to believe that.
But could it STOP AN oppression? somewhere? with just one person?
Could it save a life or two...because someone learned something?
quite possibly yes.

JTF wrote:Building a multi-million dollar joint (plus the $25/year) without a clue to what's going in sure is great planning.

You're right jimmy. Nary a thought has gone into this. This group managed to raise about $100 million from really stupid private donors and got three levels of moron government people (including the Conservatives) to commit big bucks based on no ideas, no plan, no nothing.

All those people that donated and the tall foreheads must be stupid as hell. You all need to start a company to help those stupid people think. Clearly no one in favour of this museum is capable of thinking...

grumpy old man wrote:

JTF wrote:Building a multi-million dollar joint (plus the $25/year) without a clue to what's going in sure is great planning.

You're right jimmy. Nary a thought has gone into this. This group managed to raise about $100 million from really stupid private donors and got three levels of moron government people (including the Conservatives) to commit big bucks based on no ideas, no plan, no nothing.

All those people that donated and the tall foreheads must be stupid as hell. You all need to start a company to help those stupid people think. Clearly no one in favour of this museum is capable of thinking...

Gun registry.

You're right. Gun registry = Museum. This deep thinking is hurting my brain. Please make a point more obvious as I am too stupid to understand. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

3 levels of moron government believed that the gun registry would be a good thing, a grass roots campaign helped force it into being. No real plan was presented and it just kept evolving into something it was not. Costs Balooned out of control. Actual usability is negligable.

My idea?
How about reducing the size and building it on Memorial Park? At least there, it would be more appreciated as a museum memorial, and not an amusement park. Reduced size = lower cost. Making the museum there wouldn't hurt the eye either. It would actually fit in pretty good on the side of Memorial Blvd. What do you think?

grumpy old man wrote:You're right. Gun registry = Museum. This deep thinking is hurting my brain. Please make a point more obvious as I am too stupid to understand. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Condescending tones rarely impress those with an arguement to debate.

But it fit so very well in with all the other condescending posts in the HRM threads jimmy...

Deank wrote:3 levels of moron government believed that the gun registry would be a good thing, a grass roots campaign helped force it into being. No real plan was presented and it just kept evolving into something it was not. Costs Balooned out of control. Actual usability is negligable.

I understood the gun registry had but one level of moron government responsible.

moneywise maybe...
but gov level wise everybody and his dog supported it. Mayors, Premiers ( except alberta ) police chiefs, community activists.

My idea?
How about reducing the size and building it on Memorial Park? At least there, it would be more appreciated as a museum memorial, and not an amusement park. Reduced size = lower cost. Making the museum there wouldn't hurt the eye either. It would actually fit in pretty good on the side of Memorial Blvd. What do you think?


WILL YOU GUYS QUIT FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :checking:

not a good idea. I would prefer that when the museum is built it is closer to where the eventual LRT is built and the LRT is very unlikely to ever go to Memorial

Picky today... Ain't we?

nah it just does not make sense to not have this near LRT. And LRT to the forks totally makes sense. it can be the turn around loop.

me and ages were just thinking... Shouldn't the Winnipeg Jets be the first exhibit in the new CHRM?

Deank wrote:moneywise maybe...
but gov level wise everybody and his dog supported it. Mayors, Premiers ( except alberta ) police chiefs, community activists.

Don't remember our mayor voicing support for this and what would it matter, it was federal thing brought about by the Police of this country, the Federal Justice Department, and CISIS . As a means to know who had what .

Could one say that knowledge is power?

Yes and scary.

If you're going to make all these threads about the museum...at least get the name correct.

The OFFICIAL name of the museum is:
The Canadian Museum for Human Rights

Thus CMHR NOT CHRM.

It will teach others how to kill millions of innocent people, while the world will just look and do nothing!
Something similar to what happened in Rwanda when 800,000 were murdered in 100 days, without anything being done in 1994 I believe, when Canadian general Allaaird was in charge of a U.N. peace keeping force who had guns, but no f..ing bullets. Stupid , useless UN.
Something similar to what is going on in African Countries.

rosencrentz wrote:It will teach others how to kill millions of innocent people, while the world will just look and do nothing!
Something similar to what happened in Rwanda when 800,000 were murdered in 100 days, without anything being done in 1994 I believe, when Canadian general Allaaird was in charge of a U.N. peace keeping force who had guns, but no f..ing bullets. Stupid , useless UN.
Something similar to what is going on in African Countries.

Is this what you really hope for?