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Is that term any less offensive than W.O.P, F.O.B, or J.A.P when used in the context you suggested? FYI, i was once a F.O.B and am in no way a W.A.S.P.

I never really understood the whole WASP thing.
What if a person were Catholic instead of Protestant.
Do we use WASP to generally mean white non-Jewish people?

Indeed, WASC doesn't quite have a ring to it.
Growing up, we preferred Anglican over WASP...

grumpyrom wrote:Is that term any less offensive than W.O.P, F.O.B, or J.A.P when used in the context you suggested? FYI, i was once a F.O.B and am in no way a W.A.S.P.

what the heck is FOB?
Farting
Older
Boob
???

G-ROM what is a F.O.B.? Or a W.O.P.? Please clarify....as to W.A.S.P. it is not offensive, is widely used to describe a group which traditionally has enjoyed much privilege, is still part of the political and financial elite in North America and Great Britain.....Wasps themselves refer to themselves as Wasps. As W.O.P. are you referring to the perjorative of wop? Wop, a derogatory term for Italians, does not have periods between the letters.....so if you know new acronyms by all means share them with us.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone feel that "honkey" or "cracker" is racist? Or is it acceptable to call white people derogatory terms?

Just asking.

I've never understood what honkey and cracker meant. Never gave it much thought. Don't care one way or the other. But I suppose, like anything else, some may take offense to it. I don't think WASP is offensive.

Like Newfie? Any Newfoundlanders offended by that word?

I know growing up Wop was considered "wrong". Ditto Mick.

Everybody takes some things too seriously.

My point is that Miz P takes things real seriously when it comes to a derogatory terms thrown around towards her ethnic group....but seems to think it's ok to use terms that some "white" people may be offended by. I didn't realise it was ok to pick on "whites", but not any other ethnic group. I just think if your ever going to pull the race/ethnic card you should hold yourself to a higher standard.
As far as wasp, WASP, or W.A.S.P....it can't be that widely used or accepted, never heard of it before today.

I've never heard honkey or cracker used by anyone besides comedians and white people...

so no one wants to say what FOB is?

Fresh offfffffffffffff the boat (apparently). Your culture is totally different than the culture you've moved in to...

death128 wrote:I've never heard honkey or cracker used by anyone besides comedians and white people...

Actually i've seen that term used in a few movies by non-whites. I cannot remember the movie but I recall thinking was a strange term. The guy called someone a white ass cracker.

grumpyrom wrote:My point is that Miz P takes things real seriously when it comes to a derogatory terms thrown around towards her ethnic group....but seems to think it's ok to use terms that some "white" people may be offended by. I didn't realise it was ok to pick on "whites", but not any other ethnic group. I just think if your ever going to pull the race/ethnic card you should hold yourself to a higher standard.
As far as wasp, WASP, or W.A.S.P....it can't be that widely used or accepted, never heard of it before today.

And what is my ethnic group G-ROM? In my family we are of many groups.....some OTT (of the tribe meaning "Jewish", some Wasps, heaven forbid Irish, Scottish, Russian and French) BTW for fun's sake here I am pigmentally challenged or "white" although I have been known to tan well and blush so some more colours are added to my predominant one.

Just because you never heard of the term "Wasp" prior to today does not mean that it has not been in wide use for many decades. Broaden your reading and exposure. Do some research.

Here is a start for you.....perhaps it will clarify a few issues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestant

As to me taking issue regarding derogatory terms tossed about what you believe to be my primary ethnic group? Yeah, there be lots of jewbaiting around these parts - even by us Jews eh Rosen? Damn, but we do good bbq!!!

It seems you take offence to many Jewish remarks, and you obviously don't take well to be called out on acting hypocritcally at times. As far as broadening my reading or exposure, I'd say I'm probably as well exposed or read as your "average" Canadian. Perhaps not as well read, nor as educated as some around these parts but probably as much as the "average Joe". I don't need to broaden my horizon's any more to be able to spot hypocrisy in action.

Call me on hypocrisy if you wish for that is your right. There is nothing wrong with broadening one's horizons for it makes one better equipped to engage in polemical discussions. And knowing that there is so much more out there to learn is rather humbling and that is good - to be humbled.....remember, I use humour sometimes in ways that some may not understand but if clarification is being sought regarding any of my remarks I shall do my best to honour your or anyone else's requests and that is not hypocritical behaviour to be sure.

grumpyrom wrote:It seems you take offence to many Jewish remarks, and you obviously don't take well to be called out on acting hypocritcally at times. As far as broadening my reading or exposure, I'd say I'm probably as well exposed or read as your "average" Canadian. Perhaps not as well read, nor as educated as some around these parts but probably as much as the "average Joe". I don't need to broaden my horizon's any more to be able to spot hypocrisy in action.

Also, she like to mock/criticize people, especially of the christian faith, who believe in God, yet make one innocent meaningless joke about a woman or say you are AGAINST abortion, and oh boy, the fires of hell break lose on your behind. I've seen it; it's frightening.

Hell hath no fury like Miz P scorned

WASP is a very common expression. I'd never heard the acronym FOB before though. DP fer sure.

We sure are a touchy bunch when it comes to religion eh? But for all the religious zeal displayed not much tolerance and good faith is shown by those that go out of their way to profess strong religious faith.

In case anyone cares I too take great offense when anyone slags one religion in particular. And I have not a single horse in that race. And there seems to be no end of hypocrisy when it comes to slagging that group of peeps.

Whatever...now Edwin you are taking a debate from another forum where you used a different handle to this one....arguments are arguments, polemical discussions are the same, only dressed up a bit better and not fraught with histrionics.

I can suffer the slings and arrows.....not an issue. My gender is predisposed to taking it on the chin.

You have a very nice day and remember that whatever god it is that you bow to, loves you.

grumpy old man wrote:WASP is a very common expression. I'd never heard the acronym FOB before though. DP fer sure.

We sure are a touchy bunch when it comes to religion eh? But for all the religious zeal displayed not much tolerance and good faith is shown by those that go out of their way to profess strong religious faith.

In case anyone cares I too take great offense when anyone slags one religion in particular. And I have not a single horse in that race. And there seems to be no end of hypocrisy when it comes to slagging that group of peeps.

Well phrased....I do not slag muslims nor christians but I will slag illogical statements and any misogynistic nonsense I run across. If some of these folks who take issue with my strong voice wish to really argue and do so in a civilized and informed fashion then meet us at the Kingshead pub next Saturday, 8 PeeEm...be there or be so kindly square....chances are you will get a big hug and kiss from me because I am a very affectionate and caring LADY.

grumpy old man wrote:
We sure are a touchy bunch when it comes to religion eh? But for all the religious zeal displayed not much tolerance and good faith is shown by those that go out of their way to profess strong religious faith.

One can have tolerance, but can also defende his/her faith against those who mock it or criticize it. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just wish more people would do the same.

Nobody mocks....but illogical statements are always fair game.

[quote="Miz point"]Nobody mocks....but illogical statements are always fair game.[/quote

Please give an example of illogical.

Not sure what makes religion so special that it can't be questioned like any other topic.

We skewer politicians, newspaper columnists, celebrities, businessmen, etc. almost nonstop, but the moment anyone criticizes religious beliefs they are considered rude and insensitive.

To my thinking, if religious beliefs can't withstand the scrutiny of cold reason, they deserve to be mocked.

Interesting....nice way of putting certain polemics into context. Thank you.

incognito wrote:Not sure what makes religion so special that it can't be questioned like any other topic.

We skewer politicians, newspaper columnists, celebrities, businessmen, etc. almost nonstop, but the moment anyone criticizes religious beliefs they are considered rude and insensitive.

To my thinking, if religious beliefs can't withstand the scrutiny of cold reason, they deserve to be mocked.

Beautiful.