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How Great is Living on a Reserve?

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26How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:28 am

Miz point


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LivingDead wrote:
rosencrentz wrote:Ahousaht reserve- no running water?
Is there any explanation, other than the chiefs took the money, to explain how in 2009 this can be true?
And Canada is in 3rd world countries setting up fresh running water, but not in Canada because?

Only in Canada do you have people claiming poverty while having fun on their quads.



I wonder where all the band money goes. Those quads cost about 7k or more.

From what I'm told, (by a former resident) People up in Cross Lake/Norway house get a new quad and snowmobile every couple of years. I'm told there is a mountain of snowmobiles and pickup trucks at the bottom of the lake near Norway house. I'm told, People leave them out on the ice during spring melt/breakup and get new ones through insurance and from the band office.

AND THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY WANT TO PRESERVE THE FRIGGIN ENVIRONMENT?????

I am livid

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27How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:33 am

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Quads are part of the traditional native lifestyle.

28How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:34 am

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As long as the money keeps pouring in they'll never be accountable. Time to turn off the money tap. Pay them off, get rid of Indian Affairs and then it's either sink or swim.

29How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:36 am

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grumpy old man wrote:Not sure how you arrive at 33 billion dollars as the monies feeding the reserves LD. INAC has an $8 or 9 billion budget. Base your math on the INAC budget.

But any way you slice it that is one HUGE chunk 'o cash.how that money is spent. Start with the reserves themselves. Spend every available dollar on schools on reserves. Spend whatever is necessary on university educations as well.

An education is paramount. Then perhaps our aboriginal brothers and sisters can take care of themselves.

I used to assist young FN folks in terms of seeking post secondary education.....all high achievers academically and very talented.....i had to make threats to their respective tribal councils because said councils would not willingly endorse their funding because these kids were living off reserve (lynn friggin lake) from nelson House (yeah Rodney Spency kiss my white ass) and whose families were not kissing enuff ass.....screw INAC and screw the friggin tribal councils.....time to change that system of accepted corruption.

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30How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:40 am

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My brother-in-law lives on 6 acres near stonewall.There is a well that has been dug and been operating for 20 years. When it broke down from old age he put in new pipes for $ I don't know how much? $2-$3,000.
What is the big deal to having to figure that out?

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31How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:41 am

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incognito wrote:Quads are part of the traditional native lifestyle.

reservations are shitholes.....get rid of that system as it benefits only a select few and not those individuals that it was designed to serve....little children and their toys.....how I fondly recall the Sarcee Fnations folks out in Alberta land getting fancy trucks the one year for oil dividends.....most of the trucks got wrecked within six months....

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32How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:21 pm

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Miz point wrote:reservations are shitholes.....get rid of that system as it benefits only a select few and not those individuals that it was designed to serve....

No arguments from me on that point.

33How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:24 pm

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Land set aside and "reserved" for the Natives to use makes total sense.

Them forcing themselves to live in the remote areas does not.

34How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:15 pm

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Once an instrument of oppression, education must now become the tool that brings hope, opportunity and success to First Nations. There is an abundance of evidence to support the need for greater investment in education and skills training, and the economic arguments are easily made to show how this investment can and will pay off for the entire Canadian population.

The statistics affirming the deplorable state of First Nations education are alarming:
• The funding for First Nation schools has been capped at 2% since 1996 in spite of inflation and an average annual population increase of 6.2%.
• During the same period, almost every provincial and territorial education system in Canada has undergone a complete restructuring of their education system, increasing their annual funding, on average, by 3.8% per year.
• INAC’s funding has resulted in an historical deficit of $1.17 billion over the years 1996-2005.
• A projected funding deficit over and above the 2% cap is projected at $304 million by 2010.

Furthermore, the current federal funding formula provides little or no funding for First Nations in the following areas:
• Languages - Over half of the 60 or so Aboriginal languages in Canada were at risk of extinction in 2001. The majority of these languages are not spoken in other locations. The federal government’s national formula allots only $215 per student for language training. By way of comparison, Alberta provides $2,261 per student, on average, to teach French as a first language.
• No funding for key functions including Libraries, Technology, Sports and Recreation, second and third level First Nations education systems, as well as shortfalls in special education, band employee benefits, student transportation, teacher salaries, capital and maintenance, and more.

Without the necessary support for basic life skills in early learning years, First Nation economies struggle under the burden of a population without the necessary literacy, numeracy skills, and training to secure employment opportunities. In fact, for First Nations to achieve employment parity only with the rest of Canada we need over 93,000 new First Nation workers introduced to the workplace today. Our figures also show that given the schooling gap we need at least 169,000 secondary level certificates in order to start addressing higher level post-secondary deficits. With these deficits, impacts will only continue to deepen as we enter a knowledge based economy with two-thirds of jobs requiring post-secondary training or education.

At a meeting of the Council of Ministers of Education, Canada (CMEC) this past February, AFN advanced a National Education Framework as a recommended path forward. The AFN seeks engagement on this basis to advance critical needs in education.

Source of the Information: Stats Canada

35How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:51 pm

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INAC is a moribund agency and should be dismantled immediately. There should be no funding differences between provinces regarding First Nations peoples.

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36How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:01 pm

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Do you think it would help if we moved aboriginals into the North End and Point Douglas areas?

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37How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:59 pm

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They might have more self-esteem if they moved to some place nicer, like Wellington Crescent. How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Icon_smile

38How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:02 pm

incognito

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sure, displace the Jewish settlement... again.

39How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:20 pm

Miz point

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Excuse me.....what makes you think Jews dominate the crescent? Still very waspy......and some Ukrainians.....hehehehe

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40How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:05 pm

incognito

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Who said anything about dominate?

Though one particular family of settlers seems to dominate the news.

41How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:08 pm

Miz point

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Jealous?

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42How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:10 pm

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Nope... annoyed.

43How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:12 pm

Miz point

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Annoyed at what perchance? Please clarify.

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44How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:15 pm

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The insufferable arrogance that public funds should be used to support private initiatives, like museums and football stadiums.

45How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:26 pm

Miz point

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My my.....I ain't no fan of the Aspers myself but singling out one particular cultural group or family that matter as representative or dominating one street or set of public funding initiatives diminishes your credibility. Capiche? We as taxpayers subsidize private interests daily through our taxes or higher interest rates that we pay on loans because we are not bazillionaires.....hundreds of thousand of "little guys" make business all that much easier for the "big guys" to conduct and btw the latter are not all Aspers or Jewish for that matter. The wasp establishment still reigns in this country.

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46How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:29 pm

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You're reading way too much into my previous comment.

47How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:34 pm

Miz point

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Uhhh, no i am not. Your oblique and obvious references speak for themselves. You cannot back outta this one and do not worry as I am not trying to start a fight or anything but I do so enjoy semiotics. Fascinating discipline it is.

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48How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:41 pm

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Whats's a wasp besides an annoying flying insect?

49How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:46 pm

Miz point

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Yeah the other ones can be annoying too.....hehehehe.

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50How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:50 pm

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K, so what is a wasp by your alternate definition?

51How Great is Living on a Reserve? - Page 2 Empty Re: How Great is Living on a Reserve? Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:52 pm

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White
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