latest Poll- Conservatives Down 4% to 34%

Communists under Layton are ahead of the liberals.

I might vote NDP because they are promising +65 year olds more retirement funds!

I think a few heads in the sandbox may explode if the current numbers hold up on election day. Instead of a Harper majority government we just may be looking at coalition government led by Jack Layton....all depends on what people actually do on election day and which ridings those votes show up in. Should be interesting to say the least.

I think that the Conservatives and Mr.Harper have grossly underestimated the "ABC- Anything But Conservative" sentiment amongst many and may be in for a very rude awakening on election day.

Should be very interesting and exciting to see what the result actually is come May 2nd. I can't remember the last time that there were 3 or more realistic possible outcomes this close to election day.

The polls are so far back and forth I really dont know how any of them can realistically add that

+ or - 2 % 19 times out of 20

Its crazy.. one place I was reading had con seats at 119 another at 149,


I think its pretty clear that it will be a minority something at this point...but with 1 week to go... who knows?

Regardless of who is on top.. I really hope that Libs loose a minimum of 10 seats... 30 would be better. WHY? so that IGGIE WILL frick OFF and then perhaps the Libs will have a real contest for leader and put someone in who has earned a spot there.
I really hate that man.

Just a quick comment.
Can whoever starts these political threads make sure to indicate whethers it's the provincial or federal parties/election these threads are in reference to.

Please and thanks!

We can get a Conservative majority, if the NDP take enough seats from the Liberals, which is the guess of the pundits! NDP will pull more Liberal votes as compared to the Conservatives.
I don't care already! I have heard enough of the Lying, Lyers (Conservative and Liberals).
There should be an all female party! I would vote for them, rather than the old white man selection!

EdWin wrote:Just a quick comment.
Can whoever starts these political threads make sure to indicate whethers it's the provincial or federal parties/election these threads are in reference to.

Please and thanks!

Are you really having that much trouble following along? There are two threads: a provincial thread and a federal thread: Look on the main page under the forum titled "politics" (https://kwdc.forumotion.com/f16-politics) and you'll see this:

politics...
2011 MB Election
2011 Federal Election

grumpyrom wrote:I think a few heads in the sandbox may explode if the current numbers hold up on election day. Instead of a Harper majority government we just may be looking at coalition government led by Jack Layton....all depends on what people actually do on election day and which ridings those votes show up in. Should be interesting to say the least.

I think that the Conservatives and Mr.Harper have grossly underestimated the "ABC- Anything But Conservative" sentiment amongst many and may be in for a very rude awakening on election day.

Should be very interesting and exciting to see what the result actually is come May 2nd. I can't remember the last time that there were 3 or more realistic possible outcomes this close to election day.

There will be surprises come election day. But the surprise may well be yours. If most of the polls I've seen in the last day or two are indicative of how Canadians will be voting we will see the conservatives re-elected. IMHO there are only two questions:
1) will it be a minority or a majority government
2) will the ndp become the official opposition?

I'm rooting for a majority so the elected government can govern. Let them run the country for four years. Then have an election. Let them stand on what they actually did.

A coalition government will be almost paralysed. Imagine needing the Bloc to help govern this country. Why ANYONE would want that is beyond me.

grumpy old man wrote:

EdWin wrote:Just a quick comment.
Can whoever starts these political threads make sure to indicate whethers it's the provincial or federal parties/election these threads are in reference to.

Please and thanks!

Are you really having that much trouble following along? There are two threads: a provincial thread and a federal thread: Look on the main page under the forum titled "politics" (https://kwdc.forumotion.com/f16-politics) and you'll see this:

politics...
2011 MB Election
2011 Federal Election

We could probably do without one of the headings no? (I hate double clicking and/or redundancy).

Conservative	39.2%	+0.6
Liberal	25.6%	-0.3
NDP	23.6%	+0.4
BQ	6.5%	-0.7
Green	3.6%	-0.1

Conservative	39.2%	+0.6
Liberal	25.6%	-0.3
NDP	23.6%	+0.4
BQ	6.5%	-0.7
Green	3.6%	-0.1

Nanos has the Conservatives at 39.2 (+.6)
the Liberals at 25.6 (-.3)
the Nippers at 23.6 (+.4)

To me, this is looking like Majority territory.

Conservative	39.2%	+0.6
Liberal	25.6%	-0.3
NDP	23.6%	+0.4
BQ	6.5%	-0.7
Green	3.6%	-0.1

Conservative	39.2%	+0.6
Liberal	25.6%	-0.3
NDP	23.6%	+0.4
BQ	6.5%	-0.7
Green	3.6%	-0.1

Sorry. I cannot edit that post.

http://www.nanosresearch.com/main.asp

grumpy old man wrote:

grumpyrom wrote:I think a few heads in the sandbox may explode if the current numbers hold up on election day. Instead of a Harper majority government we just may be looking at coalition government led by Jack Layton....all depends on what people actually do on election day and which ridings those votes show up in. Should be interesting to say the least.

I think that the Conservatives and Mr.Harper have grossly underestimated the "ABC- Anything But Conservative" sentiment amongst many and may be in for a very rude awakening on election day.

Should be very interesting and exciting to see what the result actually is come May 2nd. I can't remember the last time that there were 3 or more realistic possible outcomes this close to election day.

There will be surprises come election day. But the surprise may well be yours. If most of the polls I've seen in the last day or two are indicative of how Canadians will be voting we will see the conservatives re-elected. IMHO there are only two questions:
1) will it be a minority or a majority government
2) will the ndp become the official opposition?

I'm rooting for a majority so the elected government can govern. Let them run the country for four years. Then have an election. Let them stand on what they actually did.

A coalition government will be almost paralysed. Imagine needing the Bloc to help govern this country. Why ANYONE would want that is beyond me.

Those are the most likely scenerio's but IMHO depending on which poll you want to look at the situation should be much more dynamic. For instance the EKOS poll shows a very different picture from the one JTF quoted:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/terra-incognita-poll-projects-100-seats-for-surging-ndp/article1998361/

"The EKOS poll, conducted from April 22 to April 24, gave the Conservatives 33.7-per-cent support nationally among decided and leaning voters; the NDP had 28-per-cent support; the Liberals, 23.7 per cent; the Green Party, 7.2 per cent; and the Bloc Québécois, 6.2 per cent"

Far from a majority for any party if those results ring true....Who knows what will happen eh? The only poll that really matters is May 2nd, that's why I said it's gonna be exciting and interesting to see what happens. Seems like the results are far from predetermined this time around. Should be interesting to watch regardless of which party your rooting for.

100 seats for the NDP??

wow.... you just dont even want to begin to know how bad the attack ads are going to get after that poll came out.

Hey Libs... feeling butt hurt about having such an a$$hole for a leader yet?

you should be.

I wonder if people will look at this.. and run screaming from socialism votes?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-26/greek-budget-deficit-for-2010-revised-to-10-5-of-economy-by-eu-from-9-4-.html

"Euro-area debt reached a record in 2010, Eurostat also said
today, making it harder for the bloc’s better-off countries to
bear the costs of the fiscal crisis triggered by Greece. Debt
rose in all 16 euro-region countries, lifting the bloc’s average
to 85.1 percent of GDP from 79.3 percent in 2009, the statistics
office said. Greece’s debt ballooned to 142.8 percent of GDP,
the highest in the euro’s 12-year history."

meanwhile in Canada
http://www.cbc.ca//news/business/taxseason/story/2010/02/17/f-debt-gdp-budget.html

"Canada's net debt-to-GDP ratio is the lowest in the G7 economies," said
Scotiabank president and chief executive officer Rick Waugh back in
February 2009. "Even with the Canadian government’s recently announced
stimulus package taken into account, the net debt to GDP will remain
under 30 per cent.""

Cons - 100 seats
NDP 90 seats
Liberals 70 seats
BQ 35 seats
Green 13 seats and the balance of power

LOL

I'm a Conservative and obviously want the Cons to win, but would love to see the liberals lose a bunch of seats to the NDP, so like Dean said iggy can frick off already.

We have solid evidence that socialism is all about debt in the Manitoba government. Some people hold up some European countries as the models Canada should follow. The trouble with those models appears to be they are not sustainable.

At some point someone has to pay the piper. In Manitoba the socialist ndp will likely lose the fall election leaving it up to the conservatives to pay down the debt they imposed on us. We'll then have to deal with the barbs of the pro-socialist set who claim that the conservatives are evil only because they will be forced into some unpopular cuts.

Farging icewholes...

The worst part of the Manitoba experiment is that even when our books are balanced.. we are still 2 Billion in the hole no matter who is in charge.

Someone needs to take a long hard look at that and fix it. Alberta aint gonna be able to sustain the rest of Canada forever.

Deank wrote:The worst part of the Manitoba experiment is that even when our books are balanced.. we are still 2 Billion in the hole no matter who is in charge.

Someone needs to take a long hard look at that and fix it. Alberta aint gonna be able to sustain the rest of Canada forever.

I think Saskatchewan might help out too.

Sooo...who will become the second next ex-leader of the Liberals...Bob Rae?

That would assure a Conservative government for 8 years I figure.

Yup, then Justin...

The Libs for some reason just dont get it. Canadians dont want someone appointed to the position. They want someone who has earned it, who is as Canadian as they are.

They really started their downfall with the Leadership garbage that went on as Cretian was "leaving". A bunch of butthurt people who need a significantly hard slap.

I'd be very surprised if justin was not the next leader...

I don't think he's even on the radar personally. He offers nothing but his name, and that is as hated as it is loved.

JT was begged to come run in a soft riding.. Just like Iggie.... he is "worshipped" by Liberals.. he is a nothing MP yet many of the Lib MP candidates have a picture of him on their websites... not some other random Lib MP.. just JT.

he will be given the leadership without actually trying

go ask Iggie tonight..

http://events.liberal.ca/Event/winnipeg-liberal-campaign-rally.aspx?Lang=en

say. When your party loses even more seats this election and you go running away like a mongrel dog with its tail between its legs, who will the Liberal Leadership decide to appoint this time?


And.. dont forget to go for free breakfast with Jack Layton tomorrow at 8AM at the Friendship centre.

http://rebeccablaikie.ndp.ca/events#breakfast_with_jack_layton

grumpy old man wrote:

EdWin wrote:Just a quick comment.
Can whoever starts these political threads make sure to indicate whethers it's the provincial or federal parties/election these threads are in reference to.

Please and thanks!

Are you really having that much trouble following along? There are two threads: a provincial thread and a federal thread: Look on the main page under the forum titled "politics" (https://kwdc.forumotion.com/f16-politics) and you'll see this:

politics...
2011 MB Election
2011 Federal Election

I usually follow the left side of the website with the latest updated threads, and don't look at the sorted sections.

Ahhhh, try this link instead: kwdc.forumotion.com/search.forum?search_id=newposts