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What a McFadyen government should do

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26What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:00 pm

Deank


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He has publicly said he was not interested in politics after Mayor....but that could be changed I suppose.

27What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:03 pm

Triniman

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He'd be a front-runner, I'd reckon. Wouldn't blame him, though, if he just retired in 3 years.

28What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:07 pm

Deank

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It needs to be someone who is NOT a sitting MLA right now. Someone who has the appearance of strength AND the appearance of not simply being a Yes man for the Conservative Party policy makers.

Maybe a current MP would do?

29What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:37 pm

Triniman

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The only MB Cons MP with high enough profile is Vic Toews, no?

Bezan, James Selkirk—Interlake
Bruinooge, Rod Winnipeg South
Fletcher, Steven (Hon.) Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia
Glover, Shelly Saint Boniface
Hoeppner, Candice Portage—Lisgar
Smith, Joy Kildonan—St. Paul
Sopuck, Robert Dauphin—Swan River—Marquette
Toews, Vic (Hon.) Provencher
Tweed, Merv Brandon—Souris

30What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:58 pm

Deank

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Fletcher,or Glover might do okay.

31What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:09 pm

Triniman

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I'd prefer Brian Pallister to those two.

32What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:12 pm

Deank

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Could work. Doesn't need to be an MP. Just someone who people recognize for good or for bad

33What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:36 pm

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Triniman wrote:I wonder if Katz could be persuaded to run for Cons leader at the next leadership convention?

I doubt that he would be nominated.

A lot of Conservatives backed Katz only because the options were extremely limited.

34What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:41 pm

Deank

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And there lies the problem. The conseratives are voting their leader in based on some imagined ideology. Look at the NDP.. Doer was NOT a NDP.. he took the party in a very hard swing away from the left towards and in some cases passed the centre. They voted him in, stuck with him and he won and kept them in for alot longer then they had a right to be in considering some of the things that happened under his watch.

Now? They have voted in some NDP idealogical whipping boy. They will fall to minority status and realize what they did wrong.

The conservatives? sticking to their guns...

35What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:47 pm

Triniman

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A while back, there was some huge poll in which more Manitobans said they trusted the Doer NDP on finances than the Cons. Polls related to economic prosperity were won more by Doer's group than the Cons.

This made me think that some people are not voting strictly along idealogical lines but performance.

I still think if Doer were leader, the voters would believe that the NDP have worn out their welcome and the Cons would get in. I could be wrong.

36What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:54 pm

Deank

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Oh no doubt. Doer may well have sunk the NDP this time as well...but unfortunately for the NPD they picked a worse leader then what the cons have.

37What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:12 pm

eViL tRoLl

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Some suggestions:
freeze new capital projects for 10 years, and focus on enhancing existing infrastructure
cap physician wages for 5 years
reduce management layer in provincial government
amalgamate RHAs
increase the tax rate for very high incomes
ban all smoking
make welfare payments subject to succesful blood tests for addictive substances, and use of contraceptives
introduce innovative and cost-effective alternatives to incarceration of violent criminals, such as castration, public humiliation, etc.
get rid off switching between savings time and regular time
develop incubator approaches and supports for start-up small businesses

38What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:20 pm

Deank

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public castration maybe?

39What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:28 am

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Hugh is in for a tough ride. the dark side of me believes that he is an NDP plant.

Bets thing this guy can do is offer every Municipality a chunk of transfer payments to do what they like with it. Once he's done that, he can then proceed to run the province with what he has left over.

Nad like Evil mentioned , he can then start to look at bringing the house in order. Personally I think hee needs to start thinkign of a 9 Billion dollar budget and everything that would entail.

40What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:51 am

Deank

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". the dark side of me believes that he is an NDP plant."

heh, I was pretty sure of that as of the last election when he blathered about the Jets.

41What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:07 am

grumpy old man

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Moi aussi.

43What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:18 am

grumpy old man

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He needs the exposure. Tagging his star to Hannah to begin is a good move.

44What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:38 pm

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Homelessness is a commie/socialist topic. Bad move for Hugh.

45What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:44 pm

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Politically maybe a bad move for Hugh, but what about morally/ethically? Should the PC party ignore the homeless and hope they go away for fear of being too socialist?

46What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:48 pm

Triniman

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grumpyrom wrote:Politically maybe a bad move for Hugh, but what about morally/ethically? Should the PC party ignore the homeless and hope they go away for fear of being too socialist?

Homeless people don't vote or vote much.

Unless he announces specifics to combat homeless, this won't do much for him.

47What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:51 pm

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Exactly what I said, not a great move politically but not necessarily a bad move ethically. Coming up with some initiatives to help combat homlessness may do nothing for him as far as getting elected, but it's not a bad thing to do in the bigger scheme of things either.

48What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:57 pm

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Doesn't really matter what Hugh's platform is anyways, the only way the provincial PC's are getting in power with him at the helm is the same way the NDP got into power last time around. It will be people voting for "a change", any change and voting in the PC's that will vote him into power. No different than the last time around when many people were not so much voting for the NDP party as much as voting against Gary Filmon.

That's the only way Hugh is getting into power. The guy has zero charisma and no vision. The NDP handed him a gift by having Sellinger take over after Doer.

49What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:23 pm

Triniman

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Hughie and the bringing back the Jets announcement from the last election.

An NDP plant? No, I doubt it.

So, what could it have been?

1. He's a twit
2. His handlers gave him bad advice
3. The old-school Cons advisors were replaced by young twits.
4. He smelled blood, Cons blood, and had to say something, even if it smacked of desperation.

Hugh has zero charisma and no vision? Depends on your POV. Talk to his loyal followers and Cons dittoheads and they will say exactly the same thing about Selinger why trumpeting Hugh's vision, leadership, etc., as what we need.

There is no truth, only spin. And that's the truth, folks.

50What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:12 pm

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Zero charisma and no vision! I am voting for him for sure. The last politician with no vision ended up on City council, amongst all the others.

http://www.elansofas.com

51What a McFadyen government should do - Page 2 Empty Re: What a McFadyen government should do Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:55 pm

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Trin, Hugh had no chance against Doer and the NDP team. Hugh will have no chance against Selinger becasue he's not offering anyhting of substance and the NDP team will not just roll over. They are WINNING, and that is all that matters.

As far as "business" backing Hugh, forget it. The NDP have doled our more coin to satisfy everyone. From forced wages to the upside on contracts, to massive expenditures on contracts. The NDP have been fueling the economy for wuite sometime. I think most are satisfied with their performance and with a further 17 Billion in the pipeline of spending, why not. After all, what is Hugh offering ? From where I sit, I see nothing of substance.

I will vote, but I will void my ballot.

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