WikiLeaks - Is this a threat

Hacking

In 1987, after turning 16, Assange began hacking under then name "Mendax" (derived from a phrase of Horace: "splendide mendax," or "nobly untruthful").^[12] He and two other hackers joined to form a group which they named the International Subversives. Assange wrote down the early rules of the subculture: "Don’t damage computer systems you break into (including crashing them); don’t change the information in those systems (except for altering logs to cover your tracks); and share information".^[12]

Did you notice that the initialls of the 2 complainants was the same?

Caroline I. Arturos
Cathy I. Alabaster

Listening to Gomeshi and his guests made valid points.

This is the job REAl journalists used to do
This is freedom to information
This is no different than Watergate

Tidbit I found interesting was Karzai's brother flew intot he US wioth 53 million dollars. Where did Karzai get the money? Who got a good chunk of that taxpayer spoils of war ?

This example is why I think WikiLeaks is a good thing. I am astonished people are looking to "assassinate " Assange, a guy who has been on this quest from an early age.

Mendax is proving to be an honorable and valiant warrior.

Mendax demanding Canuck dipshit be charged for "assassination" comment. I agree with him. Let the guy do some time and think about what he says.

Wikileaks has been shut off by PAYPAL...is this rational behavior Who's pushing the Big button. .

I am disliking the Americons more and more everyday

I found that move most distasteful as well.

Sadly, the conscience of the global community, it seems is rusted and is not moved by the death of over six million innocent Muslims, killed in Chechnya, Palestine, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Somalia and Kashmir, during the last thirty years, as a result of state aggression against the Muslim countries. And now the global peace-brokers want to be the witness to more blood-letting, through state terrorism by the civilized world.

http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2010/12/wikileaks-tool-of-psy-warfare.html

oooo be very afraid.. Wikileaks has released a list of key infrastructure sites to American interests.. oh noes.... some of them are in Canada.

http://www.winnipegsun.com/comment/columnists/brian_lilley/2010/12/06/16444501.html

on the other hand.. terrorists would have to be COMPLETE MORONS to not know most of those already.

oh wow...power plants are key.. no wait, radio active isotopes.. no wait.. people that manufacture medicine..

Was perusing HuffingtonPost and looked up the PayPal boycott issue. Interesting to note , there is 3500 comments posted and it would seem , everyone who has a PayPal account is shutting it down in protest.

I considered doing that as well.

Seems VISA is also shutting down payments to Wikileaks.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2010-12-07-visa-wikileaks_N.htm

So...do we throw our visa cards into the river in protest or something?

no no.. give them to me for safe keeping in case you change your mind.

So this is what happens when people get too close to the truth? All freedoms and protections are disolved. I'd like to see a boycott of Visa and PayPal. Watch how quick they would turn. It won't be long before the US Governments threats to thhese two companies will be posted in WikiLeaks.

Mastercard just jumped in. Time to send another letter from a customer. This is getting more and more bizarre. Many people confused and angry including another 6500 Comments on a related HffpO WIKILEAK COLUMN....


wONDER HOW THE tEA PARTY WILL SING ON THIS.....THEY ARE AFTER ALL AGAINST BIG BROTHER, BUT THEN , YOU GET THE SILLY aMERICAN PATRIOTISM SLOGAN THROWN IN TO BRING EVERYONE TO HEEL.


sHIIIt....sorry for caps.

What I dont understand is the "excuse" that Visa and Mastercard are giving.

He may be violating the terms of the service agreement.


umm.. how?

I don't understand how on the one hand, we as a forum can be against illegal activity, and then turn around and champion a man who in a different age would be shot for treason for his actions....

what has he done that is treasonous?

About all he has done so far is the school yard equivalent of telling everyone that you wear boxers instead of briefs.

Good point - he's just spreading the stuff that other people are illegally leaking.

I guess that makes it right then!

Screw you, PayPal!

LOL,

no no.. really I am serious. What has he leaked that is any value at all?

I really dont have any idea. But from what I have seen its nothing.

...no different than any gossip rag IMO.

Instead of hearing all the juicy and ridiculous insider info on celebs, this dude is reporting on other things that don't really matter...but hey, it's nice to kick a guy while he's down, so let's all pile on!

JT, the difference is that Rob Lowe's sex life details aren't going to affect anyone's life in a significant way.

I think all this guy is going to achieve is more waste of tax dollars as governments go after leaks, increase security, and deal with a fear of communication between departments.

Here's an essay of his ideals. haven't read part 2, but it seems like this guy is intent on taking down governments and not proposing anything of value to take it's place. That's going to work out great. Thanks, buddy.

http://cryptome.org/0002/ja-conspiracies.pdf

I'm all for rooting for the underdog battling big government and making things efficient. I just don't see any government reacting to this by saying "That's it! No more waste! Let's be efficient everyone!". It's going to be clampdown, no communication, which makes for fantastic working conditions for getting stuff done. Not.

As stated earlier, I'd be all for this guy if he picked his battles and surgically selected the most damaging docs on coverups re the war, with a goal of what change he wanted to induce. Instead, he's batted the hornets nest too many times with too big a paddle, and has lost any chance of doing anything productive.

I think he's a narcissist.

sex offence

maybe time to shut down the WWW.
twas the department of defence that invented the internet.

I think he's a creation or a plant.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/dec/06/western-democracies-must-live-with-leaks

As stated earlier, I'd be all for this guy if he picked his battles and surgically selected the most damaging docs on coverups re the war,


Thats not his job. That is Media's responsibility. All he is doing is giving you a chance to look at the inofrmation . Its up to you to do what you like with it.

I think , if allowed, he'll just keep doing what he's been doing. Obviously , this is a lifelong passion for uncovering items. More power to him. Now go ask the Media why they aren't investigating what he's turning up vs, why he's doing this.

To many people are making the mistake of being distracted by the deflection being imposed. Thats a scary and dangerous mindset being developed.

I'm not the first to propose this, but what if you replaced Assange and Wikilieaks with Bin Laden or Al-Jazeera?

How many people would be championing and donating millions then?

Livio Ciaralli wrote:As stated earlier, I'd be all for this guy if he picked his battles and surgically selected the most damaging docs on coverups re the war,


Thats not his job. That is Media's responsibility. All he is doing is giving you a chance to look at the inofrmation . Its up to you to do what you like with it.

That doesn't negate my argument. He still could have used this information in a way to effect change rather than just be irresponsible and throw it out there.

If the stuff he is releasing is so powerful that he needs to have an encrypted file full of secrets to blackmail governments into not killing him lest it be released, then he should have been a bit more responsible with what he was releasing, imo.