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NHL Rumours... The NHL is returning to Winnipeg

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JT Estoban


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Good 'ol metal benches...

Same goes with the bathroom.....bring back the trough! NHL Rumours... The NHL is returning to Winnipeg - Page 6 Icon_razz

grumpy old man

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Bite your tongue.

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gotta tell you..the trough might not be a bad idea.. the line ups for the mens washrooms are a little ridiculous even when there is only 6500 people in the building

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Take a pee before you leave home and hold it until you get home. Voila!

Oh, and don't drink anything in between.

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The mighty little commish says no teams are moving any time soon....

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hockey/2010/01/21/12563671-qmi.html

“We’re not moving any teams right now and we’re not expanding, so it’s really academic at this point,” Bettman said.

So, unless Bettman is going to do a massive reversal (Past is prologue, so how many times has he done that before?) at the end of the Olympics - right around the time when the NHL would really rather the focus turns back to the playoff race - this is all just wild speculation based on a old rumor.

Been fooled a few too many times.....what's that old Bush line....Fool me once...shame on...well, the point is, you won't fool me again! lol NHL Rumours... The NHL is returning to Winnipeg - Page 6 Icon_wink

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I saw that New Jersey has an announced crowd of 5000~ at their last game. Take note of attendance at every team in the south. Even Denver is doing very poorly.

Little bettman may be wearing rose coloured glasses but even the uber-rich will not continue to sustain heavy losses year-in and year-out.

And those teams that are making money will get tired of subsidizing bettmans little gambit if not already.

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Bettman is a Boob. And not a nice boob either. One of those boobs that was first in line for plastic surgery only to have the solution burst and totally disfigure it beyond any hope of repair.

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grumpy old man wrote:I saw that New Jersey has an announced crowd of 5000~ at their last game. Take note of attendance at every team in the south. Even Denver is doing very poorly.

Little bettman may be wearing rose coloured glasses but even the uber-rich will not continue to sustain heavy losses year-in and year-out.

And those teams that are making money will get tired of subsidizing bettmans little gambit if not already.

Agreed....been saying the same thing for years.

The one thing that others, such as Al Strachan and others critical of the NHL's attendance figures....which are dubious to say the least.

Especially when you consider that some teams pad the attendance numbers with free ticket giveaways....thousands of tickets.

Some franchises have included tons of incentives for ticket holders. Free parking, food and merchandise vouchers...all kinds of things to entice southerners to come to the games.

A general rule of thumb, take a huge grain of salt with the announced or reported NHL attendance figures. It's skewed heavily in it's own favor...even if it looks bad on paper, it's more likely that it's far, far worse even than that!

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grumpy old man wrote:You are assuming that a team needs 20,000 seats. If the average NHL arena team sat 20,000 for every game you'd have a point.

I think in a perfect world 20k seats would be nice. That is not a reality in Winnipeg. Creative pricing and superb management will have to do the trick me thinks. For now...


Creative pricing, and superb management practices...with the exception of the Moose...those are not traits that are considered hallmarks of Winnipeg based professional sports teams....IMO. NHL Rumours... The NHL is returning to Winnipeg - Page 6 Icon_eek

If you modify that slightly to "Un-creative pricing, and superb mismanagement.... that would be different! lol

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JT Estoban wrote:Creative pricing, and superb management practices...with the exception of the Moose...those are not traits that are considered hallmarks of Winnipeg based professional sports teams....IMO.
And there you have it! The folks that have run that franchise (and the Goldeyes for that matter) have been posited as model franchises.

Perhaps there is something to private sports ownership after all. Hmmm. Interesting thought. Could that model work for the Bombers? Me thinks it can indeed...

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one other thing to understand is that some of these Mega Rich owners get off the power trip of owning a prosports team

And tickets sales and game day revenue in Winnipeg would probably cover the 57 mill payroll with what another 10 million in expenses that would need to be covered since the MTS centre pays for itself it not something the owner would have to worry about (as is the case in other areas)

losing 10 mill per year (and that being a tax right off so even then gets parred down to a smaller actual loss) would really not mean alot to some people.

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If it were just 10 mill a year I'd say you are right Deank. Phoenix loses $30 - $45 million a year. I think the NYI lose more.

Many of those owners have big egos but most did not get uber-rich by luck...

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Deank wrote:And tickets sales and game day revenue in Winnipeg would probably cover the 57 mill payroll

Almost PRECISELY the number I calculated. That does not include TV and radio, memorabilia and other non-game day revenues.

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grumpy old man wrote:If it were just 10 mill a year I'd say you are right Deank. Phoenix loses $30 - $45 million a year. I think the NYI lose more.

Many of those owners have big egos but most did not get uber-rich by luck...

pheonix looses that much because they have no ticket sales and no game day revenue. Smile

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"and the Goldeyes for that matter"

achoocrocusloanachoo

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That's funny.

achoocrocusloanachoo or no that stadium is a fun place to take in a game and they average what 7000 peeps in the seats?

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heh.. no doubt. they have the league best numbers for attendance most years... something like 70% of home weekday evening games were sell outs the one year

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You fella's picked out your season tickets yet?

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yup.

mind you I also think I have picked the right numbers for tonights Lotto Max

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My last seats were on the north blue line, 18 rows up. Damn fine seats. Took about 10 years to rotate into those prime seats.

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BUT, in Winnipeg, you can have 41 WINTER CLASSICS (plus playoffs), at the stadium without any difficulty. Micky dealers would make more dough than ticket revenues.
NHL Rumours... The NHL is returning to Winnipeg - Page 6 Lol

http://www.new.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1416203996

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That's simply untrue. You damn well know that in Winnipeg we have three months of winter and 9 months of poor sledding.

You Italians, and...... goo

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Electrician wrote:BUT, in Winnipeg, you can have 41 WINTER CLASSICS (plus playoffs), at the stadium without any difficulty. Micky dealers would make more dough than ticket revenues.
NHL Rumours... The NHL is returning to Winnipeg - Page 6 Lol

nah this is the peg.. slurpee sales would be more.

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grumpy old man wrote:That's simply untrue. You damn well know that in Winnipeg we have three months of winter and 9 months of poor sledding.

You Italians, and...... goo
Or was it three months of summer and 9 months of poor driving...
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http://www.new.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1416203996

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12 months of poor driving....seasons don't seem to matter!

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