Obama or McCain?

Deank wrote:The one good thing about this election? Americans have finally once again said who they wanted as a leader.. none of this dicking around with chads and having recounts in one state or another or saying there were issues at the ballot box. About freaking time. Maybe there is hope for Canada in 4 years to.

...but, what took the Americans 4 years (their campaign run-time) we did in a month. Wham Bam Thank You Mame ...

AGEsAces wrote:Well..in the US it is.

If someone comes up to you in the street with a gun and says "give me your money, or else"...would you call that stealing?

So if someone gets into office and creates a tax and if you don't pay it, people with guns come and tell you to "give them your money, or else"...seems pretty much the same.

nope

Is obama really the first black president???

http://www.bigissueground.com/history/blair-blackuspresidents.shtml

First president with mixed blood living as a black man, perhaps.

FlyingRat wrote:First president with mixed blood living as a black man, perhaps.

Still...there have been "black" presidents before Obama...maybe they had white skin but still mixed blood.

Are you saying that his election is not the historic occasion it is being touted as?

Isn't GWB an alien? That should be a historic occasion...
Well, he can always get alienated.

FlyingRat wrote:Are you saying that his election is not the historic occasion it is being touted as?

No...it's really not.

An American ran for President...and an American won the office.

Is he the first Hawaiian to win? maybe that's historic.

Now...if Arnie were to run and win...THAT would be historic...since he technically isn't even allowed to run.

yeah I dont really see the big deal either. me thinks people who are making it out to be a big deal that he is black, are far more racist then they think they are.

just sent this to CBC:

This morning I was listening to the broadcast about President Elect Obama.

Interviews from various parts of Canada were made, and the question seemed to be "what do you think of the US electing a black president?"

My complaint is that CBC should NOT be asking a question such as this. It promotes and perpetuates racism. It implies that the reason Obama was elected is because he is "black"...not because he's qualified, or a good American.

Whether it's an historical fact or not, it's no different than walking up to Abraham Lincoln and saying "congratulations on being the first president elected who's taller than 6' 4". It's rude and insulting to Obama, and people of color everywhere.

So it's understood, I am not a person of color and I am offended. CBC should be focusing on the same topics they would have had McCain been elected. The issues at hand, the policies proposed, and the "what's next" in society.

Projecting racism in such a public manner will only provoke those who already have an issue with a race.

AGEsAces wrote:just sent this to CBC:

This morning I was listening to the broadcast about President Elect Obama.

Interviews from various parts of Canada were made, and the question seemed to be "what do you think of the US electing a black president?"

Seems like a valid question. If you spin it a certain way, you can see it as being offensive or not.

Deank wrote:yeah I dont really see the big deal either. me thinks people who are making it out to be a big deal that he is black, are far more racist then they think they are.

In an ideal world, no one would care about a candidate's race, gender, etc. Fortunately for Obama, a ton of Americans don't care one iota about his race, hence his victory.
I wonder if we'll ever see God select a black pope?

I have no problem selecting a valid black pope.

FlyingRat wrote:Are you saying that his election is not the historic occasion it is being touted as?

yep that is what I am saying. He is not the first "black" president to be elected. And even if he was, who cares. As long as he is passionate about bringing real change and is qualified for the job then that's all that really matters. Why are so many people hung up on race. There were 5 others before Obama who were black...so this isn't that historical now is it.

If McCain were elected there would be hoopla over his age, and the first female Veep.

That's what I said, he's too old, and Palin, no, never...
Not even next term, no, never...

So now the Canadian elections are history, the US elections are in the hangover stage, what's next. Who will we bash now???
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh...
Dairz da quebec election in December,
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuwwwwwwww...
Who will be the first to start a topic on that?
Ready, set, GO!!!!

Goth_chic wrote:

.....He is not the first "black" president to be elected. There were 5 others before Obama who were black...so this isn't that historical now is it.

I thought that, besides Bill Clinton, Barack will be the first president that is "blackish". (His mothewr was white).

It doesn't matter the genetic make-up of a president's blood. Obama is the first visibly black President, and "Black America" now has an inspiring example that they need not be limited by their skin colour.

FlyingRat wrote:It doesn't matter the genetic make-up of a president's blood. Obama is the first visibly black President, and "Black America" now has an inspiring example that they need not be limited by their skin colour.

Does anyone REALLY think it will make a difference?

That the black community will rally to get jobs and actually work for a living?

That they will decide it's time to get off the welfare system and stop abusing it?

That the jails will empty out because the black criminals will now have hope?

No...not all blacks are not working.

No...not all blacks are on welfare.

No...not all criminals are black.

But the overwhelming majority of each point are. There are more blacks who are unemployed, higher percentage of blacks on welfare, and more blacks in prison percentage wise than other races.

It would be akin to the Natives in Manitoba, where it's just what the numbers show.

So, if people really think electing a black president is going to rally the people...great. Maybe Manitoba should elect one of the Native "chiefs" as Premier, or Canada should elect one as Prime Minister.

No matter what the "facts" are, it's still a really big deal to Black Americans:

http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/World/2008/11/06/7320431-sun.html

and apparently to many native canadians as well for some reason.

Heh hehe heh.

Native chiefs always seem to have their hand out asking for more federal money.
Evil Doer always seem to have his hand out asking for more federal money.

What does this tell us?

that we are not giving them enough money?

Evil Doer is a Native Chief?

Or Native Chiefs are Evil Doers?