Why not privitize the school system?

rosencrentz · 26 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:25 pm

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OK, it has more to do with rotten, commie, parents, trying to make their kids neurotic, by lying to them about education being the way to succeed to a well paying medium type of job, such as teaching, lawyering, ( which could lead to being crown prosecutors and judges and worst case scenerio politicians, dentistry, Doctoring, nursing, all lies.

tick · 27 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:41 pm

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rosencrentz wrote:No!

he may be crentzy but he is part right.
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rosencrentz · 28 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:00 am

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Private schools teach twice the material that a public school covers. I don't know if the public schools have all kids in the same rooms , or have rooms for quick and slower abilities?

Freeman · 29 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:47 am

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All I can say is that I am glad that my kids are out of the public school system, and had I had the means, they would have all been put in private school. Thats not based on some religious inclination, just that at least in private school, I would have had some input into what the hell was going on. The private school system has become a bastion of social engineering. Instead of teaching skills which will provide kids with the tools to pursue post secondary education or a career, they jam their socialist values down the kids throat and expect parents to follow suit. Values is what I as a parent teach my kids.

rosencrentz · 30 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:18 am

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Margaret Wente column March 21, Globe, has a very good report on a U.S. eductional program called KIPP. Aimed at the "poor" market, Hispanic and Black,and it is interesting because of the amount of time the kids put into classes. it appears they are spending an extra 2 hours a day, plus alternate Saturdays, and homework. Has been successful in getting 80% of the kids into college. No information on how many drop out, or what the normal % of going to college is. probably 10%
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I wish I had that opportunity when I was in school!

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Freeman · 31 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:27 am

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Interesting that statistics are not available to "track" the successes of our system. The standardized testing was shot down. The most alarming stat I heard from our provincial system is that 1 out of every 4 kids will not graduate from high school. I find that number offensive. At least all 4 of my kids made it through.

grumpy old man · 32 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:06 am

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They shot down standardized testing for "social" reasons. We have to get our academic heads out of our social asses. Measure measure measure.

Guest · 33 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:12 am

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grumpy old man wrote: We have to get our academic heads out of our social asses.

We have to get our academic heads out of our social asses.

We have to get our academic heads out of our social asses.

DAMN!!! This is worth repeating. Over and Over.

Freeman · 34 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:12 am

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The "social" reason was that it might point out shortcomings of some administrators and teachers and that might affect their social life. Isn't it about time the system put the kids ahead of the staff?

grumpy old man · 35 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:13 am

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That was their premise. But I think we all saw through their BS.

Freeman · 36 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:13 am

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JTF wrote:

grumpy old man wrote: We have to get our academic heads out of our social asses.

We have to get our academic heads out of our social asses.

We have to get our academic heads out of our social asses.

DAMN!!! This is worth repeating. Over and Over.

It is a great line!! Could use some music to snap it up.

Guest · 37 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:17 am

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How dare you challenge our teachers!!! What's next???...saying some women should never be allowed to have children?? OMG....what have we come to...a society that constantly judges??

lol!

Freeman · 38 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:18 am

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One of the advantages I had, was having 3 kids the same age. (Not sure if advantage is the right word, but..) Starting at grade 3, my sons were split up and in different classes, so I got to compare teachers, who were supposed to be teaching the same thing. Needless to say, I was not a popular parent when I contacted the school, saying why are 2 of my kids doing this and this, and the other one hasn't even started.

Classic was in grade 6 when one of my sons came home hating science because the teacher gave the class a science project and told them to make it into a play. When I asked the teacher what a play had to do with science, her response was that she really wasn't into science but was more of a language arts type. Holy sh1t.

Freeman · 39 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:22 am

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Funny thing is that 2 of my kids are in University, studying to be teachers, one in Music and the other in Phys Ed.

We tease #3 son with the saying that "Those who can, do; those who can't, teach; those who can't teach, teach Phys Ed."

Deank · 40 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:23 am

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ugg I am seeing the same thing with the twins... Math was a fun one.. I asked the one teacher.. how is it you can be teaching this, when son in other class has not even started anything close? Her response was..well I am teaching the curiculum so I am not sure how to answer what the other teacher is not doing.... 5 days later... stuff was re-organized in the school. Son number 1 teacher is one of the best teachers I have ever encountered in the school system.. she fixes what is broken on her own initative.

grumpy old man · 41 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:37 am

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Who is she and what did she do with the regular teacher?

Guest · 42 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:04 am

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Time for a Jim rant.

(I must preface this with saying that I graduated with a 96 on my grade 12 math exam).

When one of my daughters was having trouble with her grade 7 or 8 arithmatic I was dumbfounded by what I saw in her text book. The book was complete jibberish that actually required another book in order to be able to comprehend the direction the course took.

Absolute nonsense. sh1t that made no sense. Crap from idiots.

One must question why the book was used and who selected it to be used.

Finally, how much money was paid under the table for the selection and use of that particular book? There can be no other reason for the selection.

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Deank · 43 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:15 am

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on the upside... the math they teach in school now is the math that I did in school when I was a kid and got punished for because it was not the "proper" way.

basically..
what is 32 multipled by 8 =

traditional
32
x8
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2 *8 = 16.. write the 6 down carry the one.8 * 3 =24 plus the one I caried so I write down 25 for a number of 256.

my way
well I know 30 * 8 = 240 and 2 *8 = 16 so 32 * 8 = 256

yeah yeah I know just break the question down..seems like an logical and easy way to do it right? yup... so easy all my math was done in my head and beause I never showed work...teachers thought I was cheating. When I did show my work the way I did it, I was marked as wrong because thats not the way I was supposed to do it.

Freeman · 44 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:28 pm

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Why not just go 8 x 32 = 256? Seems easier than both methods that you used.

Deank · 45 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:46 pm

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that just an example... Smile

ie 19 times 371 would be something most people could not do from memory

Freeman · 46 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:24 pm

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Use a calculator. Thats what they taught me in school. Very Happy

rosencrentz · 47 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:49 pm

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In my head I would do 20x371=7420 and then deduct 371

Deank · 48 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:58 pm

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exactly.. thats fine too.. as long as you are breaking it up into manageable chunks.

and yeah infortunately they do teach everyone to use a calculator now.

Freeman · 49 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:25 am

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Actually, its very fortunate that they do, otherwise my line of work would be incredibly slow and tedious(er)

grumpy old man · 50 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:12 am

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Deank wrote:and yeah infortunately they do teach everyone to use a calculator now.

Be nice if they had a spellculator eh???

Freeman · 51 Re: Why not privitize the school system? Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:14 am

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grumpy old man wrote:

Deank wrote:and yeah infortunately they do teach everyone to use a calculator now.

Be nice if they had a spellculator eh???

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