I ordered from BoBo on main st once or twice and was disgusted when I saw they made the paper for being filthy with mouse droppings throughout.
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Restaurant closings
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27 Re: Restaurant closings Tue May 12, 2009 9:19 pm
anny
contributor
Part of me would rather go to a restaurant that was closed and recovered than one that's never been caught.
28 Re: Restaurant closings Tue May 12, 2009 9:23 pm
anny
contributor
There's so much chance involved with restaurant inspections. Being closed for something like a broken dishwasher or lack of hot water might have been a temporary problem or something they don't even use; yet, the problem will still necessitate a closure.
29 Re: Restaurant closings Tue May 12, 2009 9:24 pm
anny
contributor
I will however admit that "filthy throughout" is a concern.
30 Re: Restaurant closings Tue May 12, 2009 10:00 pm
Triniman
general-contributor
Goth_chic wrote:I ordered from BoBo on main st once or twice and was disgusted when I saw they made the paper for being filthy with mouse droppings throughout.
Ewww!!! Gross me out!
31 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 6:27 am
Electrician
general-contributor
I just lost my appetite... (again...).
32 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 10:40 am
rosencrentz
uber-contributor
Very disheartening to find out so many insane people in the food industry!
33 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 10:46 am
AGEsAces
moderator
rosencrentz wrote:Very disheartening to find out so many insane people in the food industry!
You know...it's actually funny you say that.
What many people (including inspectors) don't understand...is how the industry really works.
For those who actually have CAREERS in the food industry (that's different than a "job" so you understand)...it's a world of its own. The food industry demands high hours, low pay, and real dedication for anyone to be truly successful...but they take care of their own.
Inspectors, regulations, etc are nothing but nuisances which are typically ignored...or minimally followed just to avoid harassment.
34 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 10:56 am
Deank
contributor eminence
considering most inspections are "Scheduled" I find it amazing that any places every have serious problems.
35 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 11:06 am
Guest
Guest
I don't think it is a small matter when a dishwasher is not functioning properly. Seems a few here think it is a minor infraction.
If you cannot sanitize the dishes between use, you should not be allowed to be open. Period.
Eating from dirty plates is not my bag.
If you cannot sanitize the dishes between use, you should not be allowed to be open. Period.
Eating from dirty plates is not my bag.
36 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 11:07 am
JT Estoban
major-contributor
Deank wrote:considering most inspections are "Scheduled" I find it amazing that any places every have serious problems.
Precisely!
When I was working in the industry, everyone knew when the inspectors were coming...they would schedule extra staff the night before to do a emergency scrub down.
Remember, regulations are just an obstacle to doing what you want to do to make money, brought to you by pinko bleeding heart commie/hippies. Nothing more.
Let the market decide how sanitary eatery's should be!
37 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 11:11 am
Deank
contributor eminence
JTF wrote:I don't think it is a small matter when a dishwasher is not functioning properly. Seems a few here think it is a minor infraction.
If you cannot sanitize the dishes between use, you should not be allowed to be open. Period.
Eating from dirty plates is not my bag.
place where I worked we checked the temp of the dishwasher cycle every 2 hours. Never had a single problem and if we did, we would have voluntarily stopped serving until we got it working again.
some of the closures.. like lack of water.. are caused by the city working and they actually come in at the same time the water is being shut off and then come back as soon as its back on, you would think they would not have to do that, that restraunts would just close their doors voluntarily during that time period to avoid the name going up on the list of closures...
38 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 11:16 am
Guest
Guest
If the dishwasher isn't working properly and they don't do anything about it, imagine what else they are doing? Scrape off the mould and cook it...drop it on the floor and serve it...????
Food for thought....(punny eh).
Food for thought....(punny eh).
39 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 11:17 am
grumpy old man
administrator
I suspect most restaurants don't test the dishwasher temperature.
40 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 11:21 am
JT Estoban
major-contributor
I recall when the store owner came in one day to do a spot inspection....he started quizzing me and the rest of the staff on the minimum and maximum temperatures for various things....we had no idea. No one told us when we were working, and none of the management thought it was our duty to do so. Our job was to prepare food and run the kitchen. Their job was to manage the kitchen and make sure the equipment was working properly.
And the dishwasher never had it's temp taken.....everything came out steaming hot...if it was still dirty, it went back in again and again until it came out clean!
And the dishwasher never had it's temp taken.....everything came out steaming hot...if it was still dirty, it went back in again and again until it came out clean!
41 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 11:24 am
AGEsAces
moderator
JTF wrote:I don't think it is a small matter when a dishwasher is not functioning properly. Seems a few here think it is a minor infraction.
If you cannot sanitize the dishes between use, you should not be allowed to be open. Period.
Eating from dirty plates is not my bag.
That's what sinks are for...and dish rags...and the chef's dog
.42 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 1:24 pm
anny
contributor
JTF wrote:I don't think it is a small matter when a dishwasher is not functioning properly. Seems a few here think it is a minor infraction.
If you cannot sanitize the dishes between use, you should not be allowed to be open. Period.
Eating from dirty plates is not my bag.
Not all restaurants wash using a dishwasher. Some small places wash by hand. In fact, most of our restaurants involve handwashing because, well, for a 30 seater that didn't come with a dishwasher, it just made more sense money-wise. There are sanitizing procedures for handwashing too. We received a warning once for a broken dishwasher in our kitchen. We had never used it before because, well, it was broken.
43 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 2:18 pm
Guest
Guest
What are the other sanitizing procedures if you don't use a dishwashing machine. How do you get the tempreture high enough to kill bacteria? Or do you use chemicals?
Just wondering as I never knew it was acceptable to not use an automatic machine.
Just wondering as I never knew it was acceptable to not use an automatic machine.
44 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 2:25 pm
FlyingRat
moderator
There are water heaters that get the water hot enough for the sanitizing sink.
45 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 2:28 pm
Guest
Guest
Hot enough to kill germs but cool enough to be able to put your hans, even with gloves, into the water?
46 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 2:31 pm
FlyingRat
moderator
Someone who has actually worked as a dishwasher can confirm this, but I believe the procedure is that after the dishes are washed and rinsed and regular temperature, they are placed in a rack in a separate sink basin, and the very hot water is sprayed over the dishes for some amount of time....
48 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 2:33 pm
grumpy old man
administrator
Racist dishwasher comment! Not ALL dishwasher operators are German.JTF wrote:Hot enough to kill germs but cool enough to be able to put your hans, even with gloves, into the water?
50 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 2:35 pm
FlyingRat
moderator
Han is not German, he is Corellian! And there is only one Han! Hence the "Solo"!
51 Re: Restaurant closings Wed May 13, 2009 3:26 pm
anny
contributor
I can't seem to find the Manitoba sticker online, but here's one for Alberta.
http://www.calgaryhealthregion.ca/publichealth/envhealth/images/three_sink_dishwashing_method_sticker.jpg
So, yeah, the choice is to either use really hot water or bleach water. If chemicals turn your stomach, you might want to move to the middle of nowhere. Wait, does that exist anymore? When I worked at A&W, I was surprised to find out the store policy was to rinse the lettuce in bleach water.
You'll find that human dishwashers tend to build up some resistance to hot water. My mom can pick up dishes that I would never be able to touch for more than a few milliseconds.
http://www.calgaryhealthregion.ca/publichealth/envhealth/images/three_sink_dishwashing_method_sticker.jpg
So, yeah, the choice is to either use really hot water or bleach water. If chemicals turn your stomach, you might want to move to the middle of nowhere. Wait, does that exist anymore? When I worked at A&W, I was surprised to find out the store policy was to rinse the lettuce in bleach water.
You'll find that human dishwashers tend to build up some resistance to hot water. My mom can pick up dishes that I would never be able to touch for more than a few milliseconds.
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