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Senate Reform?

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1Senate Reform? Empty Senate Reform? Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:25 am

Deank

Deank
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Harper will be filling 18 vacant senate seats before christmas.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2008/12/11/7705626-sun.html

NPD says..
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NDP MP Paul Dewar said the move to "stuff the Senate" proves the Conservatives have abandoned democratic reform.
"What Harper is practising is old politics, desperate politics, and quite frankly, pathetic politics," he said. "He has thrown out any credibility for the Conservatives in terms of being honestly democratic and wanting to do things differently. "

2Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:25 am

Deank

Deank
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Hasn't Harper tried once to reform the senate and his legislation was watered down? Or am I mistaken?

3Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:59 am

Guest

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I'm happy to see that Harper is filling those vacant seats....and I doubt EliMay and Dijon will be on the list....and I'm sure Paul would be okay with the appointments if he was included. Wink

4Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:08 am

libermom

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His reforms keep getting rejected by the senate. Once the reforms are passed, those that he appointed have to step down and run to get elected.

5Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:29 am

Guest

Anonymous
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I just can't imagine Sharon Carstairs firing herself.

6Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:59 am

Deank

Deank
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libermom wrote:His reforms keep getting rejected by the senate. Once the reforms are passed, those that he appointed have to step down and run to get elected.

yup.. seems like a pretty reasonable in the mean time measure eh?

7Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:13 pm

FlyingRat

FlyingRat
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moderator

What's stopping the provinces from holding elections to select Senators, and then the PM appoints those elected?

8Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:53 pm

Deank

Deank
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nothing, except there is no time right now.
The AB government already has.. the sask gov is about too..

9Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:54 pm

Guest

Anonymous
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At this point in time, he should fill those vacancies with Conservatives and not concern himself with whether they were duly elected or not. If they were...fine...if they weren't...try next time.

10Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:13 pm

Deank

Deank
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I like his approach better... fill the seats but make them sign a document saying they will resign when/if senate reform happens.

11Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:44 pm

Guest

Anonymous
Guest

This retirement house should be done away with come on it is cronnies and hacks time to blow it good bye .

12Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:28 am

Guest

Anonymous
Guest

I'm not so sure we don't need a house of sober second thought. I only have a problem with senators being appointed.

13Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:07 am

grumpy old man

grumpy old man
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Abolish the senate.

14Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:17 am

Deank

Deank
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contributor eminence

nah.. just make them elected every two years after a general election.

15Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:02 pm

LivingDead

LivingDead
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ELECTED, EFFECTIVE, EQUAL.

That sums up how our upper house should be. 2 term limit should also be enforced.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

16Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:27 pm

LivingDead

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I sent an e-mail to the PMO's office. I suggested that he should appoint my wife as a senator, and that the riding of Winnipeg North could use someone in the government who can do something to help Canada. Our MP Judy just isn't cutting it and we cant seem to get her out.

I wonder if Harper got to read that e-mail.
I'd be shocked if he appointed her, and I'd be happy. She would probably be pissed off at me and I'd end up in the DOG HOUSE.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

17Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:34 pm

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Anonymous
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The very most 2 terms and money spent doesn,t get you into the show . ie Mira Spivak, and numerous others only name I could think of .

18Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:25 am

Guest

Anonymous
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This just goe's to show that he is no better then those before him they are all hypocrites , to bad he is joined the ranks .

19Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:47 pm

Guest

Anonymous
Guest

What should he do Jim....wait for your Liberals to get in and fill the seats?

Sorry, that ain't gonna' happen.

20Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:52 pm

Guest

Anonymous
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LivingDead wrote:I sent an e-mail to the PMO's office. I suggested that he should appoint my wife as a senator, and that the riding of Winnipeg North could use someone in the government who can do something to help Canada. Our MP Judy just isn't cutting it and we cant seem to get her out.

I wonder if Harper got to read that e-mail.
I'd be shocked if he appointed her, and I'd be happy. She would probably be pissed off at me and I'd end up in the DOG HOUSE.

There are some vacancies, but not in Manitoba...

BC = 3
Sask = 1
Ont = 2
Que = 4
Ont /NB = 2
NS =3
PEI /Nfld =1

21Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:26 pm

Deank

Deank
contributor eminence
contributor eminence

that dont add up to 18

22Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:59 am

Guest

Anonymous
Guest

If he was truly ready to change things do away with this very expensive retirement club

23Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:01 am

Guest

Anonymous
Guest

Deank wrote:that dont add up to 18
That's just off the top of my head...sorry.

24Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:04 am

Guest

Anonymous
Guest

This buy your way in club is nonsense and should be truly cut back one per province and 2 terms gone some one new at the very least .

25Senate Reform? Empty Re: Senate Reform? Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:10 am

Freeman

Freeman
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LivingDead wrote:I sent an e-mail to the PMO's office. I suggested that he should appoint my wife as a senator, and that the riding of Winnipeg North could use someone in the government who can do something to help Canada. Our MP Judy just isn't cutting it and we cant seem to get her out.

I wonder if Harper got to read that e-mail.
I'd be shocked if he appointed her, and I'd be happy. She would probably be pissed off at me and I'd end up in the DOG HOUSE.

Hey LD, I live in Judy Whatshernamewitheveryletterinthealphabet's riding as well. You mean her attending every ethnic event is not good representation? What about whining when a bank or business closes? I thought she checked with you before she opened her mouth, because I can tell you that she sure doesn't talk ot me.

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