Free Press finally tells the truth about Judy

That tells you about just how dumb she is.

She didn't have to bring the matter up. Sam doesn't talk about it much. He did bring up the fact he was born in the North End way back when, but he didn't push the point. And she didn't have to, so she's dumb. heh

not really.. she took the risk to lie.. even though her campaign was on honesty and the risk paid off since no one would call her on it

But she lost. And perhaps the papers didn't pick it up, but the voters did.

AGEsAces wrote:

umcrouc0 wrote:

Deank wrote:Most people think she was born and raised in Winnipeg.

Having it out there big time that she actually moved here not because she loved what the city looked like, but because she thought she could force her way onto a MLA seat. thats huge.

Hard to play for an opponent though...ie "are you against people moving here"?

but if a paper would have outed her, it could have worked

Would anyone actually vote for someone to run a city because they were born there? How small of a talent pool is that to pick from?

You're joking right?

It's more likely that someone "born & raised" would get elected than someone who's an "import"...if all other things were equal...and that's in ANY town.

It makes absolutely zero sense. If someone is in a city long enough to know the issues, they are in no worse of a position than someone "born and raised" there. I guess you're right that it probably would happen if all other things were equal (which they never are), but it's a completely moronic way of deciding who you want to try and figure out how to do something like find a solution for a massive infrastructure deficit. Unless being born in Winnipeg allows you to wear a magic helmet that causes roads to fix themselves.

JTF wrote:That tells you about just how dumb she is.

She didn't have to bring the matter up. Sam doesn't talk about it much. He did bring up the fact he was born in the North End way back when, but he didn't push the point. And she didn't have to, so she's dumb. heh

Hate to break it to your JTF but Sam was not born in Canada, he was born in Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Katz Not that I support either of them but to bash one because she is not a "born and bred" Winnipegger is not right cause neither of them are.

Yes those 3.5 months as an infant in Israel count for so much....

more to the point.. Katz admits to them

Judy 100% lied about herself.

Deank wrote:more to the point.. Katz admits to them

Judy 100% lied about herself.

The first paragraph of her bio on her own website says:

"Born in a small community in Ontario, Judy is the third child born to parents who met in Holland while her father was serving during World War II. In 1980 Judy and her husband Ron chose Winnipeg to build their careers and raise a family. "

So where was she 100% lying about her connection to Winnipeg?

I want to simplify this for everyone.

Judy only moved to Winnipeg to get elected.

let's put it this way:

say Obama's term is up...and he likes Canada
So he moves here and lives for 3 years so he can get his citizenship...JUST because he wants to join the government here...maybe run immediately for Prime Minister.

How many votes do you think he'll get?

How many Canadians will NOT vote for him...JUST because he's an American import?

Basically the same with Judy...she came to Winnipeg JUST to get elected...because her campaigns weren't working where she actually had some competition.

Hey, isn't Iggy a citizen of convenience?

FlyingRat wrote:Yes those 3.5 months as an infant in Israel count for so much....

But he still claims to have been "born" in the North End of Winnipeg. So did he come out from his mother's womb a second time, when they moved here? I won't dispute that he was raised in the north end and attended school there. But he is still an immigrant, more so that Judy is, at least she is Canadian. But on the other hand, at least he actually grew up in Winnipeg, unlike Judy who moved here for "work opportunities".

IMHO, that is one piece that I like about the American presidential portion of the electoral system. Presidents must be born in the USA to even be considered. That is why Arnold can't run but that may change.

AGEsAces wrote:let's put it this way:

say Obama's term is up...and he likes Canada
So he moves here and lives for 3 years so he can get his citizenship...JUST because he wants to join the government here...maybe run immediately for Prime Minister.

How many votes do you think he'll get?

How many Canadians will NOT vote for him...JUST because he's an American import?

Basically the same with Judy...she came to Winnipeg JUST to get elected...because her campaigns weren't working where she actually had some competition.

If Obama came to run for PM? I think it would be a landslide victory. But it depends on how things turned out during his run as President. If he actually did some good work there and we had the chance to have him work for us it would be stupid not to take advantage of it. A lot of people would probably rather have Obama than who we have now, from any of our parties. If he moved to Canada and lived here for over 20 years and ran for office, I don't know if people would say 'you haven't lived here long enough'. Judy moved here to win an election in the 80s. Not to win the mayoral election. After almost 25 years if we're saying she hasn't been here long enough to be able to run for the mayors position, that seems pretty nuts. Maybe in the 80s that would have been an argument to sway some people when she first showed up.

But when do you become a ‘native’ Winnipegger? Does it have something to do with your formative years? With what area geographically you identify with?

I have an acquaintance who has described herself as a native Manitoban. Problem is she’s in her 30’s only lived in Manitoba for 4 years in her 20s, then buggered off back to Ontario for 4 years. When she comes back to Manitoba early this year she describes herself as a ‘native Manitoban’.

If not an outright lie, it’s pretty close IMHO.

I'm not a native Winnipeger nor Manitoban, I was born in Alberta and didn't move here until I was 3. BUT I call myself a North Ender because I have lived almost the balance of my life (save 4 years 8-12 in Vancouver and 1 year in North Kildonan). I have had opportunities to move to other parts of Winnipeg (St Vital and Westwood) but because I love the North End I chose not to move. We lived in North Kildonan for a bit more than one year and both my hubby and I, when we were looking to buy a home, said lets go "home" to the North End because we knew it was the right place for us.

Maybe being a Winnipegger or Manitoban is more a state of mind. I was not born in Winnipeg. I did not arrive in this great city until I was 5 years old. And I spent 16 years living in Toronto later in my life.

But I believe I'm a Winnipegger with every fibre of my being. I think most who are acquainted with me would define me as a passionate Winnipegger.

I guess what I'm saying is you don't have to be born here so long as there is a very real connection to the city and her people.

judy could have that connection. But I feel her to be disingenuous about that due to the circumstances that brought her here. Under different circumstances she could just as easily be a Sudburian or Edmontonian...

http://judyformayor.ca/news/entry/129/


“I’ve been an MP and I know how Ottawa works. I’ve been an MLA and know how the province works. And I’ve been a Winnipegger all my adult life,” said Wasylycia-Leis.

Did I say hallelujah? judy needs now crawl into her tree trunk and retire.

grumpy old man wrote:

judy could have that connection. But I feel her to be disingenuous about that due to the circumstances that brought her here. Under different circumstances she could just as easily be a Sudburian or Edmontonian...

That's the same as anyone who moved to Winnipeg for work.

No. Not really.

How so?

How is moving to a city for a job different opportunity, different from moving to a city for a job opportunity in a different field?

they admit they moved for the job.
she's not saying that. she didn't come to winnipeg to serve the people, she didn't even know the people. she came to serve herself.

Sort of like she came here to build her career?

umcrouc0 wrote:Sort of like she came here to build her career?

What career? She has never worked in the real world...she's been a career politician, sucking off the teat of the taxpayer!

That's still a career these days.