nellie mclung was evil?

Pavolo wrote:

Miz point wrote:Excuse me Pav but abortions are free and accessible to ALL that is unless one's male-dominated tribal council decides that you, the woman, should not be terminating a pregnancy due to certain edicts such as the need for propagation therefore no plane ride to Winnipeg for you because we the elders have decided for you what course your womb errr life should take....Oh, I have heard that litany many times in my years up north and am hearing the siren call down here.....we will breed, and breed and breed because we can and that is how we will regain whatever......and you Pav cannot deny that words such as those have been uttered from top all the way down to the fourteen year-old girl who has been pressured into keeping a child she is not prepared to raise.

Hence as said it is not as easy for the girl up north and you are right , in their eyes numbers matter .

Pavolo wrote:

LivingDead wrote:

Pavolo wrote:So where in your infinite wisdom do you find the solution , sterilization is not one of them . But easier adoption is one of them . Problem is no one wants to take the child and give them a chance at better live . Most of these kids if given the chance can and do lead fairly good life's .

Quite a few people are not willing to take a chance on adopting a child who might have FASD.

Pav old chum, could you afford to look after a child with FASD? Would you be willing to adopt a child from Manitoba? Are you a part of the solution?

One I was one of those children in the 50's and I have done quite well Thank you .

Two I have friends that have adopted a child who is white and suffers from it he is doing better every year .

Three Iam to late in life to adopt a child now, but would if I could .

And the comment about white was directed at Freeman just to say not all adoptions in question are Native in ancestry. Cept maybe in your eyes , Yes while the majority are it is not unheard of for the little Barby Princess from River Heights to be part of the problem . You may not hear as much about it as they can or do afford Abortions much easier then the girl on the reserve . After all there is an image remember .

Deank wrote:what are you people doing up this early on a Freakin MONDAY and arguing about this? Take a shot of vodka, settle down and then discuss later today.

Miz point wrote:I have seen the story from "their" side Pav....goodness knows I have articulated it enough here. So tell me, when does the process of making excuses, on both sides, end once and for all and progress start to be made?

Deank wrote:what are you people doing up this early on a Freakin MONDAY and arguing about this? Take a shot of vodka, settle down and then discuss later today.

Pavolo wrote:

Miz point wrote:I have seen the story from "their" side Pav....goodness knows I have articulated it enough here. So tell me, when does the process of making excuses, on both sides, end once and for all and progress start to be made?

Probaly when we do not look at them as the cause of all of their problems , and admit that we may be to blame too.

Freeman wrote:Wait a minute...someone is advocating that families adopt aboriginal babies and take them away from their cultures and values? Isn't that considered cultural genocide? Isn't there a movement to try to connect adopted children back with their birth parents?

Seems like that solution has been tried before and been the subject of much criticism.

LivingDead wrote:

Freeman wrote:Wait a minute...someone is advocating that families adopt aboriginal babies and take them away from their cultures and values? Isn't that considered cultural genocide? Isn't there a movement to try to connect adopted children back with their birth parents?

Seems like that solution has been tried before and been the subject of much criticism.

Worked well for Phoenix Sinclair

Miz point wrote:

Pavolo wrote:

Miz point wrote:I have seen the story from "their" side Pav....goodness knows I have articulated it enough here. So tell me, when does the process of making excuses, on both sides, end once and for all and progress start to be made?

Probaly when we do not look at them as the cause of all of their problems , and admit that we may be to blame too.

phrick that....sorry but I had to deal in court today with a "victim".....low IQ twat who thinks she can use whatever to gain whatever even if she had lost whatever and still wants to blame whatever...and cannot look towards herself in terms of her situation? You know Pav a nice little word called INTROSPECTION?????

phrick that....and phrick her....and phrick the phucking system that allows folks like her to keep breeding and needing and whatever.

grumpy old man wrote:And if I had a case I'd be glad neither of you were involved and horrorified if you were...and...

Greeblok.

Pavolo wrote:

Miz point wrote:I have seen the story from "their" side Pav....goodness knows I have articulated it enough here. So tell me, when does the process of making excuses, on both sides, end once and for all and progress start to be made?

Probaly when we do not look at them as the cause of all of their problems , and admit that we may be to blame too.

Pavolo wrote:

Miz point wrote:

Pavolo wrote:

Miz point wrote:I have seen the story from "their" side Pav....goodness knows I have articulated it enough here. So tell me, when does the process of making excuses, on both sides, end once and for all and progress start to be made?

Probaly when we do not look at them as the cause of all of their problems , and admit that we may be to blame too.

phrick that....sorry but I had to deal in court today with a "victim".....low IQ twat who thinks she can use whatever to gain whatever even if she had lost whatever and still wants to blame whatever...and cannot look towards herself in terms of her situation? You know Pav a nice little word called INTROSPECTION?????

phrick that....and phrick her....and phrick the phucking system that allows folks like her to keep breeding and needing and whatever.

Sure glad you are not involved in my case with that you know mizz PRECONCEPTION .