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Winnipeg Leaves Bad First Impressions with Out-of-Towners

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EdWin

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Make good first impression, Asper urges city
By: Alexandra Paul

Updated: September 29 at 04:58 PM CDT


Now that the human rights museum is a reality, it's success will depend
on Winnipeg being a beacon of human rights in practice, Gail Asper told
city business leaders Monday.

"We want this museum to be a social and economic force to change this
city for the good," Asper said. "We have to be seen as a leader of
human rights," Asper said.

About 400 city business owners turned out at noon Monday to hear Asper,
national campaign chair for the Friends of the Canadian Museum for
Human Rights, speak at the Convention Centre.

Despite cost overruns and political opposition, the museum is now on
track break ground in 2009, with a tentative completion date of April ,
2012.

Asper, who was recently named one of eight members on the board of
trustees of the museum said the mission of the museum, is to reshape
the city's image in the eyes of the world.

Then Asper illustrated the poor impact first impressions make now with
a real-live anecdote from a pair of wealthy tourists this summer.

Two Ottawa businessmen flew to Winnipeg with a $20,000 cheque for the
museum and the poverty here nearly scared them away, Asper said.

"When they checked in (to their hotel), they asked where they could
have dinner and they were told they could walk up and down Portage
Avenue and they'd find something," Asper said.

It was after 6 p.m. and they didn't find dinner. "What they found was a
decayed, scary and hollow downtown.. . . Their idealist views of
Winnipeg were shattered. First impressions matter and ours are not up
to snuff," Asper said.

Her staff later took the businessmen on a tour to show them the city has a friendly side.

Asper said she chose the gritty topic for her keynote address at the
Winnipeg Chamber of Commerce luncheon because it's high time Winnipeg
cleaned up for company because there's lots coming.

"If we are going to be the heart of the continent, then we have to have
a heart . . . We have to eliminate poverty, violence, racial slurs and
other crimes," Asper said.

Asper said in a short exchange after her speech that she chose now to
appeal to city business leaders to help rebrand the city because first
impressions are worth millions in tourist dollars.

The museum is expected to draw 250,000 visitors a year.

alexandra.paul@freepress.mb.ca

Source: Winnipeg Free Press

I do agree that there needs to be lots done with the entrance ways into the city and into the downtown; the majority of them are really embarrassing! Is city council aware of this, and are they doing anything to try and fix this?

grumpy old man

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The airport avenues have improved and I believe much more is underway.

The downtown is a different story. Gail is right. Something has to be done.

LivingDead

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EdWin, Hi. good to see you.

I'm wondering. Will Canad inns be building a hotel near by Gail's hallowed halls of hypocrisy?

You know to take advantage of the 250k visitors expected to hit Winnipeg. Maybe with all the room tax the city will collect, they can start to take us out of the 70's and make this city look and function better.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

SMW

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Well, CanadInns did just buy the Radisson...

http://www.conceitedjerk.com

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Funny last night was watching show about a museum in Vietnam that draws thousand every year cause it is about the dark side of war wonder how ares will do . Saying that she is right the downtown is a mess north of portage is god ugly as it is the bastion to the poor and the drug dealers . I recently moved my brother out of Kennedy and Ellice as it was a hell hole and unsafe for him to be in , Sam Katz are you listening to her it is time development is pushed by the use of tax concessions and breaks . Force the city develpers to work on the area they left, we gave them Waverly West so here is the price Tax double the rate for empty lots. There are ways to do this you have to get tough . No more suburban malls .

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Let me get this straight....the Askers are upset with the scenery coming from the airport and want us to spend millions fixing up the street scene?
Perhaps they should get better friends and we could save a lot of money. Come to think of it....Gail! Toronto wants you too.Smile

Deank

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"Despite cost overruns"

excuse me?

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GOM.
We have been saying we have to fix the downtown for the past 25 years.
Suddenly, Askers' friends comment on our downtown and she bent out of shape.
Where the fuck has she been for the last 25 years?

Deank

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According the museum website and the email I recieved in January of this year. Costs are bang on where they should be.

What are there cost overruns and political oppositions she speaks of?

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Me?Smile

Deank

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LOL.. so you are finally willing to admit that you are Vic and she had to pay you off?

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heh heh...busted. LOL

incognito

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So let me get this straight...

Her friends come to town with a $20,000 cheque and she makes them stay in a downtown hotel instead of inviting them over?

Nice host.

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....and leaves them on their own to wander around downtown!!!!
If this woman had a brain, it would be very lonely.

LivingDead

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JTF wrote:....and leaves them on their own to wander around downtown!!!!
If this woman had a brain, it would be very lonely.
Could be worse. They could wander around Charles place at night, where is that German society building??? These people don't look German.

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Yeah Winnipeg still sucks. Thanks rich lady for the news.

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Ha Ha Ha...ya. now it's a pronouncement from above. Smile Thanks rich lady lol

EdWin

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nickelback wrote:Yeah Winnipeg still sucks.

Not nearly as much as Nickleback; they lick balls Razz

Freeman

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I think everyone should take a good look around downtown. Gail Asper is right. I'm a Winnipegger. I was born here and have lived here most of my life. The Mrs and I even lived downtown for 2 years when we were first married. I worked downtown for many years.
I've gone back to University this year (relax, continuing ed only) and my classes are at the U of M site behind Portage Place. I got downtown early for my class tonight (4:30) to have a bite before. I worked in the inner city for 19 years now and I have to admit that I was left unimpressed with what I say. Sat in the PP foodcourt for about 30 min and saw security escort 3 drunks out of the place. Walked a block or so down Portage and spent most of it avoiding kids on bikes and just generally trying to be tough guys. The PP mall was full of kids, vagrants and drunks. I guess all those who work downtown must have already beat a hasty retreat. I literally had to stand with my back to the wall as I waited for the bus at 8:30. If I had a choice, I wouldn't head downtown after the workday. And you got to believe me that I'm no prissy little milksop thats afraid of my shadow. Just don't need that in my life.
We will never get to the point of trying to fix the problem until we at least admit that there is one.

grumpy old man

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True that.

EdWin

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Freeman wrote:I think everyone should take a good look around downtown. Gail Asper is right. I'm a Winnipegger. I was born here and have lived here most of my life. The Mrs and I even lived downtown for 2 years when we were first married. I worked downtown for many years.
I've gone back to University this year (relax, continuing ed only) and my classes are at the U of M site behind Portage Place. I got downtown early for my class tonight (4:30) to have a bite before. I worked in the inner city for 19 years now and I have to admit that I was left unimpressed with what I say. Sat in the PP foodcourt for about 30 min and saw security escort 3 drunks out of the place. Walked a block or so down Portage and spent most of it avoiding kids on bikes and just generally trying to be tough guys. The PP mall was full of kids, vagrants and drunks. I guess all those who work downtown must have already beat a hasty retreat. I literally had to stand with my back to the wall as I waited for the bus at 8:30. If I had a choice, I wouldn't head downtown after the workday. And you got to believe me that I'm no prissy little milksop thats afraid of my shadow. Just don't need that in my life.
We will never get to the point of trying to fix the problem until we at least admit that there is one.

Exactly, and we also need to quit using the excuse that "this problem exists in other cities too". Yeah, so what? I'll bet Winnipeg does have one of the worst downtowns in Canada in terms of these kinds of people.

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EdWin wrote:Exactly, and we also need to quit using the excuse that "this problem exists in other cities too". Yeah, so what? I'll bet Winnipeg does have one of the worst downtowns in Canada in terms of these kinds of people.
EdWin's right. The first excuse is that thel downtown areas in all cities are like that. Thats just a lameass excuse. Who the hell would want to live downtown if you feel you have to lock yourself inside after 5 o'clock?

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We are a bit different with our large native population.

IMHO, some people are afraid of natives...all natives...they stereotype and react badly.

Since we have a lot of natives, naturally they'll be downtown, and will scare many people away.

Rock meet hard place.

grumpy old man

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I guess it is what it is. What are the answers? Well we certainly won't answer all the social problems overnight. I listened to Marty Gold's rant on his show last night. He blames the 1999 Pan Am Games (???) for pushing natives from their familiar haunts.
I am all for a significant police presence for our downtown. Not to rouse or hassle those acting in a socially acceptable manner. But moving along those that want to cause trouble, like excessive panhandling, staggering around, pooping in planters, harassing Joe and Jane, and especially our visitors.

I say it won't be long before those that present an intimidating presence move along.

Now let's work on the social issues...

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Where are they going to move to GOM?

We moved them off Main Street and they came to Portage Avenue.

I've always thought that Transcona would make a great place for a controlled slum with all the sleazy bars....Smile

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