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1Report calls for separate schools Empty Report calls for separate schools Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:55 pm

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Report calls for separate schools

By Mary Agnes Welch, Winnipeg Free Press
December 1, 2009


A panel struck to recommend fixes for Winnipeg's violent crime problem is proposing a separate school division exclusively for First Nations children.

The big idea was embedded in a new anti-crime strategy approved Monday at Winnipeg city council's protection and community services committee. The report, prepared in consultation with some of the city's biggest names in business and government, looked at six ways social programs -- such as family resources centres and a better education system -- could cut crime.

One of the 20-page strategy's most tangible ideas was the creation of a separate, publicly-funded aboriginal school division, much like the one created 16 years ago for French-speaking Manitobans.

"Why should Aboriginal People be denied the same thing?" asked Damon Johnston, president of the Aboriginal Council of Winnipeg, at Monday's meeting. "It can only rest in racism."

The province is often criticized for allowing eight school boards to operate in Winnipeg, carving the city into separate school divisions where most cities just have one. And the idea for an aboriginal school board has appeared before, winning limited support among parents and the provincial government.

But Johnston and Social Planning Council head Wayne Helgason said a school board run by First Nations with tailored language and life skills courses could help shrink sky-high dropout rates, rebuild aboriginal culture and combat crime and poverty.

A First Nations school division could also provide better services to kids moving to Winnipeg from northern reserves to attend high school.

It's not the first time a pitch to create a separate education system based on race or culture has hit the table in Canada. Two years ago, Toronto's public school board was gripped by a debate over a proposed black-focused school, which some called 1950s segregation disguised as cultural sensitivity.
© Copyright (c) Canwest News Service

2Report calls for separate schools Empty Re: Report calls for separate schools Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:57 pm

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I'm all for this if it will help. Trouble is, I can't see how it'll help. I can see how it'll be another aboriginal money sinkhole.

So let's amalgamate all Winnipeg school boards first. Then create this magical school board with the HUGE savings and see what happens.

*sigh*

3Report calls for separate schools Empty Re: Report calls for separate schools Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:30 pm

Riverman

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Hey, I've got a great idea for a name. How about "Residential Schools"?

4Report calls for separate schools Empty Re: Report calls for separate schools Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:29 pm

Deank

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""Why should Aboriginal People be denied the same thing?" asked Damon Johnston, president of the Aboriginal Council of Winnipeg, at Monday's meeting. "It can only rest in racism.""

So...just to be clear non segregation is now called racism?

5Report calls for separate schools Empty Re: Report calls for separate schools Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:36 pm

Goth_chic

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Everything is racist. The aboriginals are playing that card way too much, it has lost all meaning.

6Report calls for separate schools Empty Re: Report calls for separate schools Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:54 pm

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Okay - TIME OUT GUYS AND GYALS.....Eric Robinson made a great statement yesterday regarding this.....he did not want to see "ghettoization" of education based on ethnicity....he was quite clear on that. I like Eric and have had many conversations with him over the years whereby I articulated these sorts of concerns.....the way he sees it is like this, no harmonization, no understanding and no adaptation without full participation on both sides in terms of a system - any friggin system......

Mr. Robinson has my respect....and no, no YouTube links here of Eddie Murphy.....hehehe

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

7Report calls for separate schools Empty Re: Report calls for separate schools Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:24 pm

Triathlon68

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Good luck finding qualified teachers who will want to work within those schools.

8Report calls for separate schools Empty Re: Report calls for separate schools Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:49 pm

holly golightly

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Triathlon68 wrote:Good luck finding qualified teachers who will want to work within those schools.
I think it would be hard to find qualified teachers period who are also aboriginal. They had a hard time finding them for the 2 aboriginal schools that already exist so what makes this idea any different or new for that matter???????????

9Report calls for separate schools Empty Re: Report calls for separate schools Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:20 am

Freeman

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Education is a provincial responsibility, so whatever possessed this committee to include a recommendation to the City regarding education probably just illustrates how useless they were to begin with.

The francophone school division, while only set up 16 years ago, is actually in response to the Manitoba Act of 1870 when Manitoba became a province. It just took a while to figure it out.

10Report calls for separate schools Empty Re: Report calls for separate schools Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:21 am

Freeman

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Oh, and another thing, how does the education of aboriginal children differ so much from the "others" to the degree that they need their own bureaucracy. There are loads of Aboriginal school programs around (Children of the Earth and Niji Makwa schools for example)

11Report calls for separate schools Empty Re: Report calls for separate schools Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:00 am

Miz point

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Those aforementioned schools are SHITE......the students that I met had little respect for the process let alone the outcome....

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

12Report calls for separate schools Empty Re: Report calls for separate schools Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:43 am

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If the natives handle this like they've handled their own social services and health care, this is a great opportunity for a few of them to make millions from the government...

This idea is the most absurd sh it to come out of the natives for some time, but I reckon they need more of these opportunities eh. Efin commie bastards.

13Report calls for separate schools Empty Re: Report calls for separate schools Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:10 am

St Norberter

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Does this really surprise anyone?

Let me outline the standard script for every news conference held by aboriginal / metis agencies:

Waah!~We're being discriminated/ persecuted by whitey!

Now give us more money!

The only way this stops is when our government steps us and says enough of the racist system, equality for all - disbandement of the reverve system. Of course our politicians in this country don't have the balls to do that!

http://bgilchrist.wordpress.com/

14Report calls for separate schools Empty Re: Report calls for separate schools Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:57 pm

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This is a bad Idea and if they want it pay for it .

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