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Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years

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HurtinAlbertan wrote:Edwin, I just want to thank you for speaking up for me. In Canada, we have the right to practice any religion without being harassed or persecuted. Unfortunately, there will be in the past, present, and in the future narrow minded people who will hate others based on misinformation and stereotypes. It is truly un-Canadian to attack people for what they believe. I'm just glad there are Canadians like you who will not judge me for my personal beliefs.

Cheers! Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 87856

Cheers, mate Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 315348

She is clearly an extreme feminist who is out to label any religious man as a woman-hater. I read her utter garbage posts of this over and over again, and no one wants to speak out against her for whatever reason, but I'm not afraid of her. She wants to fling her sh1t, I can fling it right back in her face.

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HurtinAlbertan wrote:Edwin, I just want to thank you for speaking up for me. In Canada, we have the right to practice any religion without being harassed or persecuted. Unfortunately, there will be in the past, present, and in the future narrow minded people who will hate others based on misinformation and stereotypes. It is truly un-Canadian to attack people for what they believe. I'm just glad there are Canadians like you who will not judge me for my personal beliefs.

Cheers! Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 87856

No one is harassing you or persecuting you. All I was doing was remarking as to the underlying misogyny of not only Islam but several other religions. As I stated earlier, I have been studying Islam for many, many years as well as other religions. My thoughts are based on fact.

Take my words the wrong way for now you are showing me that like most folks you hear what you want to hear because you need to......shame. Should I be sending you a bag of nails and some wood?

Goth made a very nasty remark about Islam but I do not see you and Edwin going after her - no, instead you choose me.....gee, I wonder why. Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 970993

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EdWin wrote:
HurtinAlbertan wrote:Edwin, I just want to thank you for speaking up for me. In Canada, we have the right to practice any religion without being harassed or persecuted. Unfortunately, there will be in the past, present, and in the future narrow minded people who will hate others based on misinformation and stereotypes. It is truly un-Canadian to attack people for what they believe. I'm just glad there are Canadians like you who will not judge me for my personal beliefs.

Cheers! Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 87856

Cheers, mate Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 315348


She is clearly an extreme feminist who is out to label any religious man as a woman-hater. I read her utter garbage posts of this over and over again, and no one wants to speak out against her for whatever reason, but I'm not afraid of her. She wants to fling her sh1t, I can fling it right back in her face.

Pathetic.....very sad. Learn how to read dude.

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

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Miz point wrote:Got nada to do with being from a Jewish background....it has to do with being a woman. I am not a practicing Jew or any friggin religion for the same reasons......the mistreatment of women in the more orthodox sects and misguided belief that women cannot attain the same as men, a higher level of consciousness.

Perhaps your new faith needs a closer, more objective examination or do you just blindly follow and accept premises that impact upon half of the population? Or do we not matter? Oh, I get it, women are the downfall of man.....that whole apple and snake thing. Only men can seek enlightenment, only men's testimony is valid, only the pleasure of a man is important as woman is just there to give him sons and on and on and on......if Islam was so fu*king great and peace-loving there were be an end to female genital mutilation, honour killings and all sorts of other bullshit that any good muslim will tell you is not in the Koran but is practiced anyway.....old tribal woman-hating bullshit.....

Funny how some folks, when they come to a realization that change is needed in their lives, cannot trust their own strength or instincts but instead feel this need to attribute their positive changes to some sort of dogmatic, archaic, paternalistic "spiritual" entity.

How boring. How predictable. One set of addictions is given up for another. Sorry but that is how I see it and my words may offend but I stand by my assessments as the study of Islam has been of great importance to me over the years.

This post sums up your viewpoint, especially the highlighted areas showing "all religious men mistreat women" belief; utter garbage. I'm not saying that is doesn't happen in the world, and I don't support it. But sorry sweetheart, your "anti-religious men" belief is here.
See, I've read your posts Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 Icon_smile. Care how to explain how I might be wrong?



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Where did I say that all religious men mistreat women? BTW I am ecstatic that you know how to highlight words....wow. Amazing how with the words right in front of you that you still must attribute sentiments to me that I did not espouse.

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

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Miz point wrote:Where did I say that all religious men mistreat women? BTW I am ecstatic that you know how to highlight words....wow. Amazing how with the words right in front of you that you still must attribute sentiments to me that I did not espouse.
You "religious men hate women" statements more than implied it, you idiot. How dense are you? It's right in front of everyone's face. And if you think that the people reading your posts are incompetent morons who are unable to get your true viewpoints, they most certainly are not.

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Miz point wrote:Where did I say that all religious men mistreat women? BTW I am ecstatic that you know how to highlight words....wow. Amazing how with the words right in front of you that you still must attribute sentiments to me that I did not espouse.


I hold you to a higher standard. Goth Chic attacked me because of what I believe. To be honest, I wasn't suprised at her comments. When you attacked me for the same thing, I was saddened and disappointed.
I can't speak for all Muslims, but anyone who knows me personally is well aware I consider women as equals. If you or Goth believe the sterotype that Muslims consider women as second-class citizens, I invite you to join me at the Winnipeg Central Mosque on Ellice Avenue.

I would be glad to disspell the misconceptions that some people in Western soceity have towards Islam. I would be more than happy to show you that this is completely false.

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Edwin, I do not believe nor think that most people are incompetent morons but sir, with each new posting I am convinced that you are an incompetent moron.

For the record I love men......I love them very much and show that as often as possible to those men who care about me. Oh it is utterly delightful to be able to be cared for and have others to care about.

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

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Miz point wrote:Edwin, I do not believe nor think that most people are incompetent morons but sir, with each new posting I am convinced that you are an incompetent moron.

For the record I love men......I love them very much and show that as often as possible to those men who care about me. Oh it is utterly delightful to be able to be cared for and have others to care about.

Your not impressing anyone Miz P. And I could care less what an extreme, irrational feminist thinks of me. Thank God all women aren't as mentally deranged and sexest as you.

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HurtinAlbertan wrote:
Miz point wrote:Where did I say that all religious men mistreat women? BTW I am ecstatic that you know how to highlight words....wow. Amazing how with the words right in front of you that you still must attribute sentiments to me that I did not espouse.


I hold you to a higher standard. Goth Chic attacked me because of what I believe. To be honest, I wasn't suprised at her comments. When you attacked me for the same thing, I was saddened and disappointed.
I can't speak for all Muslims, but anyone who knows me personally is well aware I consider women as equals. If you or Goth believe the sterotype that Muslims consider women as second-class citizens, I invite you to join me at the Winnipeg Central Mosque on Ellice Avenue.

I would be glad to disspell the misconceptions that some people in Western soceity have towards Islam. I would be more than happy to show you that this is completely false.
I did not attack you,.....go back and carefully read what I wrote. I will however question the tenets of Islam and any other religion out there that has a different set of standards for men versus women. I have been to the Central Mosque many times over the years and know many prominent Muslim men and women in this town and internationally but I stand by my right to not follow any dictum that would limit me or demean me based on my gender. Go back and read what i wrote and you will see the word "sorry" there out of respect for your belief system/situation that you are in.

I know you have had a b1tch of a time lately but I am left scratching my head at those who turn to religion as opposed to having faith in themselves.....

Just go back and read and imagine we are talking.

As to Edwin the original request stands and he can go Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 190himself.

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Miz point wrote:Edwin, I do not believe nor think that most people are incompetent morons but sir, with each new posting I am convinced that you are an incompetent moron.

For the record I love men......I love them very much and show that as often as possible to those men who care about me. Oh it is utterly delightful to be able to be cared for and have others to care about.

Your not impressing anyone Miz P. And I could care less what an extreme, irrational feminist thinks of me. Thank God all women aren't as mentally deranged and sexest as you.

Hey baby - go Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 190yourself okay? You may enjoy it! Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 Icon_razz

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Miz point wrote:
EdWin wrote:
Miz point wrote:Edwin, I do not believe nor think that most people are incompetent morons but sir, with each new posting I am convinced that you are an incompetent moron.

For the record I love men......I love them very much and show that as often as possible to those men who care about me. Oh it is utterly delightful to be able to be cared for and have others to care about.

Your not impressing anyone Miz P. And I could care less what an extreme, irrational feminist thinks of me. Thank God all women aren't as mentally deranged and sexest as you.

Hey baby - go Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 190yourself okay? You may enjoy it! Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 Icon_razz
Care to say that to my face ? Nah, you don't have the guts to. Go Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 190 yourself you witch.

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Oh man....do you want me to post that private message you sent me? I would love to say Hey baby go Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 190yourself to your face - unlike you I am not scared and that is why I have never sent you a private message nor ever will do so.

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Miz point wrote:Oh man....do you want me to post that private message you sent me? I would love to say Hey baby go Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 190yourself to your face - unlike you I am not scared and that is why I have never sent you a private message nor ever will do so.

Oh whatever, I called you a b1tch. I don't care if other people know it since it's the truth, among you being an extremely irrational feminist. And you wouldn't know how to Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 190 yourself if you tried your darndest. Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 Icon_lol

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Yeah I would....its called a really expensive battery-operated pleasure giving device......does the trick nicely when the lover cannot come by - has several settings of intensity but baby, nothing beats the real thing....men are such delightful creatures.

You may start trying to act like a man.

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

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Miz point, you say you've been to this Central mosque and know many moslem people. Have you discussed your views on the treatment of women in Islam with them and if so, what did they say? I'm just curious.

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Miz point wrote:Yeah I would....its called a really expensive battery-operated pleasure giving device......does the trick nicely when the lover cannot come by - has several settings of intensity but baby, nothing beats the real thing....men are such delightful creatures.

You may start trying to act like a man.
Yikes, that is a disgusting visual Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 Icon_pale . Anyway, I know more about acting like a man than you would know about being a lady.

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Trini - I have belonged to a women's Koranic study group for years and its members range from seriously practicing muslimiyas to women like myself who while not religious do appreciate the discourse. What the concensus is amongst my sistren is that there are lots of abuses done in the name of the religion or that there are many misinterpretations regarding women and what they must do being that Arabic lacks the nouns that English has......The women of my acquaintance who are deeply religious are not held back in any respect but they acknowledge, sadly, that many are......we joke, we laugh, we make bawdy remarks once in awhile.....we respect each other.

These women have my respect because they do concern themselves with the welfare of their abused sisters......and there are lots out there.

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

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EdWin wrote:
Miz point wrote:Yeah I would....its called a really expensive battery-operated pleasure giving device......does the trick nicely when the lover cannot come by - has several settings of intensity but baby, nothing beats the real thing....men are such delightful creatures.

You may start trying to act like a man.
Yikes, that is a disgusting visual Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 Icon_pale . Anyway, I know more about acting like a man than you would know about being a lady.

You haven't Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 190 yourself yet? Man, what's taking you so long? No wonder why you are so cranky---damn shame.

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Miz point wrote:
EdWin wrote:
Miz point wrote:Yeah I would....its called a really expensive battery-operated pleasure giving device......does the trick nicely when the lover cannot come by - has several settings of intensity but baby, nothing beats the real thing....men are such delightful creatures.

You may start trying to act like a man.
Yikes, that is a disgusting visual Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 Icon_pale . Anyway, I know more about acting like a man than you would know about being a lady.

You haven't Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 190 yourself yet? Man, what's taking you so long? No wonder why you are so cranky---damn shame.
Well, unlike you Miizz P, I don't need sex toys, masturbation or imaginary lovers as I have a loving woman in my life. She is reading your posts and is ashamed to call you a "sister". She also takes offence to your labelling all religious men as evil women hating beings. So I'm not the only one who thinks you are a crackpot.

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Oh you are too funny.....you trot out the usual insults and guess what they make you look like? A moron. I don't give a rat's ass as to what your wife supposedly thinks as I have not met her, nor have I met you but I feel sorry for her in that she would stay married to someone like you.....you are a messed-up little boy.

BTW masturbation is good for you. What is so disgusting about enjoying a good orgasm? Man, you are messed-up.

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

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Miz point wrote:Oh you are too funny.....you trot out the usual insults and guess what they make you look like? A moron. I don't give a rat's ass as to what your wife supposedly thinks as I have not met her, nor have I met you but I feel sorry for her in that she would stay married to someone like you.....you are a messed-up little boy.

BTW masturbation is good for you. What is so disgusting about enjoying a good orgasm? Man, you are messed-up.

It's truly disgusting when it relates to you. And by the way, I'm not married, but in an awsome relationship. And talk about messed up; you crackpot feminists are freakshows. And I truly feel sorry for your male/female/whatever "lover" you have for yourself. My goodness, they must have to get pretty liquored up just to look at you in the nude. Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 Icon_razz

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You have never met me so your words - once again - come across as being really moronic - Still having to resort to the same sorts of insults that do get tiresome. BTW are you still banned from the Sky Scraper Pages? Oh yeah.....classic. Hehehehehe.

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Oh no, Miz P. I got banned from an internet forum. The secret is out; MY LIFE IS RUINED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You'll have to pardon me if I'm not offended by that devastating tragedy Yusuf Islam, aka Cat Stevens, on tour after 33 years - Page 2 Icon_biggrin . For someone who likes to proclaim that she has a certain level of "intelligence", you sure don't show it, fool.

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Oh man.....I am having waaaaay too much fun......getting you going is so easy - like shooting fish in a barrel with an M-16. Keep the insults coming, as boring and repetitive as they are for it is in those insults that show your true character or lack thereof.

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