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Remember remember .. eleven September

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1Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Remember remember .. eleven September Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:11 am

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Every citizen must face his or her own conscience when confronting
these difficult facts -- especially when we consider that 9/11 is the
foundation for two wars, the launching of an endless "war on terror,"
and the loss of our freedoms due to legislation pushed through amid the
fog of war.

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.commentview&comment_id=158

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.commentview&comment_id=158

2Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:15 am

Deank

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which particular loss of freedom do I have to endure?

3Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:32 am

Miz point

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If we were "Americans" then I would say our losses of freedom would be as a result of the Patriot Act.....in an oblique way. Being that CSIS is a bit of a joke up here I am not worried with regard to loss of freedoms in Canada.....but to be an agente provacateur? Let us quote Aunt Lydia from the Handmaid's Tale....."it used to be Freedom to - now it is Freedom from"....something like that.

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AdamX

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yeah, gotta say that i dont carry on much differently between now and then.

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Freeman

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It seems to me that in order to subscribe to the conspiracy theories, its like being a Jehovah Witness. You have to try to shove your beliefs up everyone else's ass, no matter how irritating you become.

Deank

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DUCKFU!

7Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:38 am

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Deank .

you quibble over the teeniest nit.
did you read the link?
you do know that the crime was commited in a land far far away. ?
some commenters may not be talking to you personlly.
maybe some arabs or americans noticed.

8Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:56 am

Miz point

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More cryptic nonsense....more grammatical sins.....if you want to be taken remotely seriously could you please stop mangling your sentences?

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

tick

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try to follow here.

Deank said .. which particular loss of freedom do I have to endure?

tick said .. perhaps others have endured a loss of freedom.

yall have heard of "others" ?

10Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:20 pm

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PS
i learnt to wright from Mrpoint. i used to only haiku

11Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:27 pm

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Complete Destruction Through the Path of Greatest ResistanceNIST claims that the Twin Towers collapsed due to the plane impacts and
fire, and that WTC 7 collapsed due to fire alone. However, note that
the Twin Towers survived the plane impacts and the jet fuel burned off
in the first 10 minutes. Beyond that, all we have are not very large
office fires. Over 100 steel framed buildings have suffered major
fires, many much worse, yet none have collapsed. All three buildings on
9/11 fell through what should have been the path of greatest resistance
– thousands of tons of steel – resulting in total dismemberment. This
would require precisely timed removal of critical columns, which office
fires cannot accomplish. Furthermore, a small falling top section would
destroy itself before it could destroy a larger, stronger, undamaged
lower section of the building. The impossible collapse is a smoking gun.
Molten IronThe temperatures of the fires present a problem for NIST's claim that
fire alone was involved. The melting point of steel is about 2800° F.
According to NIST's own documents, hydrocarbon fires (e.g., jet fuel
and office furnishings) generate temperatures only up to about 2,000° F
under ideal conditions. NIST recognizes these fires could not melt
steel, so they had to postulate elaborate mechanisms that might trigger
collapse due to weakened columns and sagging girders.
Yet there is widespread evidence of molten iron in the rubble
piles. Photos and numerous witnesses -- including fire fighters,
cleanup crews, and structural engineers -- confirm the existence of
several tons of molten metal under the debris. Some fire fighters
described molten steel flowing like lava. Photos clearly reveal molten
metal dripping as material is being lifted by excavation equipment.

12Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:30 pm

Miz point

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Y A W N

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13Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:35 pm

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At least three independent laboratory analyses of the dust that
blanketed Lower Manhattan after the destruction of the Twin Towers
reveal the presence of iron-rich “microspheres.” These spheres are
formed when molten iron is sprayed into the air and forms droplets that
cool before hitting the ground. The iron droplets indicate temperatures
during the collapses much higher than hydrocarbon fires, in an
explosive environment that could spray many tons of these droplets into
the air.

n April 2002, the RJ Lee Company was hired to investigate environmental
contaminants in the Deutsche Bank, across the street from the World
Trade Center. It reports, “Many of the materials, such as lead,
cadmium, mercury and various organic compounds, vaporized and then
condensed during the WTC Event.” The problem here is that lead
vaporizes at 3200° F, some 1200° F hotter than is possible in
hydrocarbon fires. A study of the WTC dust by the USGS for the EPA
observed molybdenum-rich spheres that can form only above 4750° F. The
high temperatures are another smoking gun.

14Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:58 pm

grumpy old man

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I started watching a 9/11 truthers documentary on the Discovery Channel this morning.

I immediately fell asleep and only woke up when I felt the blood trickling from my ears as the rays from the TV started to suck my brain out of my skull. You see I forgot to wear my aluminum hat.

Moral of the story? NEVER forget to wear your aluminum hat.

Its a joke. A joke I tell you. *Scream trails away*

Noo
ooo
ooo
ooo...

15Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:04 pm

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the first rule is never watch TV.
this place really is a sandbox

16Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:11 pm

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Tick. The millions of pieces of un-ignited Thermite particles that exist in the debris, then and today, is the only fact to put forward in a forum of sleepers. Thermite is used specifically to blast columns in the practice of demolition. Those are both facts, so that leaves rational-thinking people with a choice to make - look into it - even if your purpose is only to disprove it - which you can't, or yawn and go back to sleep.

17Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:13 pm

grumpy old man

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tick wrote:the first rule is never watch TV.
this place really is a sandbox
Now you just hold on there.

*checks to ensure tin foil hat is firmly in place*

If I don't watch TV where will I find this trutiness information? Where will I get edumacated? I mean OTHER than the sandbox?

18Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:14 pm

Miz point

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@the "truthers" - Since we are so goddamned sleepy around here perhaps there is a forum out there that would suit your purposes better? Just a suggestion.

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

19Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:19 pm

grumpy old man

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I choose sleep. Well at least over insults simply because I choose to not believe in a 9/11 conspiracy.

But for the sake of argument I agree someone rigged those buildings to go down beyond the jets crashing into them. What is different than all the hundreds of other inhumane acts humans have inflicted on other humans since God invented women?

We survived Hitler. The Japanese survived the atom bomb. We will survive the twin towers.

Lastly. And in all seriousness. What are we to do about the conspiracy. What should the average Canadian do?

20Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:23 pm

Miz point

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AHHHH but GOM, will you survive us wimmin folks? Stay tuned..... Remember remember .. eleven September Lol

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21Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:02 pm

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grumpy old man wrote:. What should the average Canadian do?


jihad ..

22Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:03 pm

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and stockpile food.

23Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:05 pm

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If the "look and you will see" context of statements is "insulting" then I'm not sure where to take it further with you. You say you agree somebody rigged the buildings and then compare it to certain other events - and then finally about survival. I think it a better exercise to explore the truth of this event - and the facts are there to do so. What to do about the conspiracy? The first thing to do is acknowledge it. The "average Canadian" can review the existing evidence and join the growing demand that there be a proper investigation into 9/11 because the Ommission Report that was manufactured, should, and does, insult those who take the time to read it, including the gross manipulation and exclusion of facts. It ignores thousands of witnesses, Firemen, Police, scientific and otherwise professional analysis of the events, the chronolgy, the debris and true accounts of individuals and records. None of which were recognized in the report because none of it can be reconciled to fit the official version. That forms the basis of intent at the highest level. If that doesn't concern you then you're just not interested in the truth. The remarks on this forum about - what difference does it make to me or my life, or, why does it matter anyway- are the epitome of ignorance. There is no need for personal conflict - you either have an interest in the facts or you don't. If anybody has the interest - then debate the facts. Anything else is a waste of time.

24Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:06 pm

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fun with reading ..
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25Remember remember .. eleven September Empty Re: Remember remember .. eleven September Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:12 pm

Jondo

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Tick that link contains a viral bug. I recommend nobody open it.

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