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26Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:19 pm

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Mod note: be passionate 'til the cows come home. Let's please use more acceptable language...

27Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:20 pm

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mr Sinclair started it. Smile

28Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:21 pm

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Imo, the club building doesn't take away from the site as does the gas station and the curling club, as well as the 100 Main St. box for that matter.

It makes a nice anchor for the overall site also, if you will, as it not an ugly building afterall.

29Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:23 pm

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How do we know what is buried under that building that might be of historical value?

30Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:25 pm

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JTF wrote:Imo, the club building doesn't take away from the site as does the gas station and the curling club, as well as the 100 Main St. box for that matter.

It makes a nice anchor for the overall site also, if you will, as it not an ugly building afterall.
Agreed.

That said I wonder if the tall foreheads at that club would have even got involved if there were no plans to build a honking big building to cast shadows over their lair. Me thinks not.

And Sinclair is a knob.

31Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:27 pm

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grumpy old man wrote:
JTF wrote:Imo, the club building doesn't take away from the site as does the gas station and the curling club, as well as the 100 Main St. box for that matter.

It makes a nice anchor for the overall site also, if you will, as it not an ugly building afterall.
Agreed.

That said I wonder if the tall foreheads at that club would have even got involved if there were no plans to build a honking big building to cast shadows over their lair. Me thinks not.

And Sinclair is a knob.

Of course they would not have... else any of them whilst they were in power could have just did it themselves, Mayor, Premiers.. etc... none of them had the power when they were in? ppht doubt that.

32Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:32 pm

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Aww...c'mon. You don't really believe they stopped the building was because of the shadow do you?

Besides, apart from the odd lunch there, most only get there after dark anyway.

Too bad they didn't take it one step further and fcuk Gailie Girl out of her Memorial to Daddy money and get another fort built on the site instead. That would attract visitors.

33Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:33 pm

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The shadow.. well not the shadow per se.. but the building being built and taking away from their "class" yes indeed I do believe that was the biggest motivator from this,

34Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:40 pm

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I'm hoping that they have a plan for another fort to be built...some place us southern folk can make a last stand from the intruders from the North End.

35Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:43 pm

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Those "intruders" might show up sooner than you'd think.

Whom (who?) am I talking about???

36Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:44 pm

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Same people that took that plane down yesterday. Be afwaid. Be wery afwaid.

37Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:57 pm

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So what about the Grain Exchange Curling Club building? I have not been able to find anything about this building on Google, except that is has been used for curling since 1928. Inside there are many chutes and other devices that indicate its history in grain and shipping activities. This seems to be one of the TRUE historical gems in Winnipeg, that deserves restoration more than many other so-called "historical" sites.

38Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:02 pm

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I was wondering that myself... but the friends of the fort are tearing it down anyway.

39Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:03 pm

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I understand the curling club is coming down...

40Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:05 pm

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Booo-urns.
Tear it down.
Make way for the park instead.

If you want boring historical grain items and such to look at, check out the Thresherman's Reunion in Austin (www.austinmanitoba.com/attractions.htm)....they do it every year. If that's your shtick anyway.

I think preserving the older historical site is much more important than a curling club.

41Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Price tag rising for park at fort Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:46 pm

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The cost of building a heritage park at the site of Winnipeg's birthplace is now expected to tally $14.5 million, as the Friends of Upper Fort Garry need to raise at least another $1 million to decontaminate a former Petro-Canada gas station and complete the purchase and demolition of the Grain Exchange Curling Club.

Within the next two weeks, a former City of Winnipeg office building at 100 Main St. will be demolished to make way for the future park and interpretive centre, with construction slated to begin in earnest in 2010 and be completed by June 1, 2014.

While the Friends, a non-profit charity, have already raised more than $10 million, the cost of the park is rising due to the expanding scope of a project originally pegged at $12.5 million and later adjusted up to $13.5 million, said Jerry Gray, chairman of the organization's new board.

The decontamination of the former Petro-Canada station at Main Street and Broadway will cost about $300,000, according to the province and Winnipeg environmental firms, while the Friends must also raise funds to complete the $750,000 purchase of the Grain Exchange Curling Club and demolish the Fort Street structure.

"We have four years to do all this, so it's not a critical thing to do right now, but we have to pay attention to this. These are two major expenses we didn't expect to have in our plan," Gray said.

The Friends of Upper Fort Garry, which spent a year battling the city for the right to purchase two parcels of surplus city land north of Assiniboine Avenue, originally intended to build a heritage park and interpretive centre commemorating fur trade-era Upper Fort Garry solely where the Main Street office building now stands as well as above a Fort Street parking lot once promised to an apartment developer.

A deal signed with the city in 2008 required the Friends to buy the curling club, which sits above part of the fort's former footprint. The province then spent $1 million this year to purchase the Petro-Canada station on behalf of the Friends.

Petro-Canada, which pegged the value of its Main Street gas station at $2.35 million, wrote off the remaining $1.35 million as a donation to the project, company spokeswoman Sneh Seetal said from Calgary.

Petro-Canada is not paying for the environmental remediation, the cost of which will not be known until the Friends determine precisely what form of structure will stand above the former gas station. The province may come through with additional funds if the remediation costs greatly exceed $300,000, a spokesman for the Doer government added.

"It depends how deep you have to dig. It will be a function of what's going to be on the surface," Gray said.

Architects and designers are still working on the site plans, which should be made public before the end of the year, he added. The general idea calls for a park with exterior elements and an interpretive centre that encloses both artifacts and displays.

Upper Fort Garry was built in 1835 and served as the administrative headquarters for the Red River Settlement before it was dismantled in stages between 1881 and 1888. The site was later used as a lacrosse club, an athletic stadium, the regional headquarters for Imperial Oil, Metro Winnipeg's pre-Unicity headquarters and a city public works building before it was declared surplus in 2006.

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42Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:00 pm

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At least it's not doubling like some projects that I know of...

43Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:04 pm

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Not yet at least. But up about 15% in a year. Drag it out as long as some other projects have been going on and it could get pretty expensive.

44Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:09 pm

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These are two things that should have been forseen imho. Gas stations need expensive decontamination and the curling club needed to be bought out. But in the big scheme of things, this isn't a huge deal imo.

45Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:12 pm

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What about the demolition of 100 Main Street?

46Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:15 pm

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I would hope that they've already considered that and priced accordingly.

47Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:19 pm

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Probaby priced accordingly assuming it starts construction at that time. If it takes them 6 months longer to get the extra money their budget will be off again.

48Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:30 pm

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I noticed that they are re-roofing the curling club, so I assume the owner is anticipating some continued curling at the site ...

49Upper Fort news - Page 2 Empty Re: Upper Fort news Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:34 pm

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eViL tRoLl wrote:I noticed that they are re-roofing the curling club, so I assume the owner is anticipating some continued curling at the site ...

waaaaa???!?!?!?!

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