holocaust awareness week?

Deank wrote:yeah they didn;t call his cousin chemical Ali, because he made speed in his downtown apartment.

When I read what happened, it gets me upset!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/20/world/middleeast/20holocaust.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper
JERUSALEM — In the Ukrainian town of Berdichev, Jewish women were forced to swim across a wide river until they drowned. In Telsiai, Lithuania, children were thrown alive into pits filled with their murdered parents. In Liozno, Belarus, Jews were herded into a locked barn where many froze to death.


Jews executed in October 1941 in Serbia. One goal of the Yad Vashem project is to learn more exactly how many were killed.



Holocaust deniers aside, the world is not ignorant of the systematic Nazi slaughter of some six million Jews in World War II. People know of Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen; many have heard of the tens of thousands shot dead in the Ukrainian ravine of Babi Yar. But little has been known about the hundreds, perhaps thousands, of smaller killing fields across the former Soviet Union where some 1.5 million Jews met their deaths.
That is now changing. Over the past few years, the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum and research center in Israel has been investigating those sites, comparing Soviet, German, local and Jewish accounts, crosschecking numbers and methods. The work, gathered under the title “The Untold Stories,” is far from over. But to honor Holocaust Remembrance Day, which starts Monday evening, the research is being made public on the institution’s Web site.
“These are places that have been mostly neglected because they involved smaller towns and villages,” said David Bankier, head of the International Institute for Holocaust Research at Yad Vashem. “In many cases, locals played a key role in the murders, probably by a ratio of 10 locals to every one German. We are trying to understand the man who played soccer with his Jewish neighbor one day and turned to kill him the next. This provides material for research on genocide elsewhere, like in Africa.”
For the purposes of this project, a killing field entails at least 50 people, said the project director, Lea Prais. The killing began in June 1941 with the German invasion of the Soviet Union. From the Baltic republics in the north to the Caucasus in the south, Nazi death squads combed the areas.
The first evidence for what took place was gathered right after the war by Soviet investigating committees largely focused on finding anti-Soviet collaborators.
The new research checks that evidence against German records, diaries and letters of soldiers, as well as accounts by witnesses and the few surviving Jews, some of whom climbed out of pits of corpses. Sometimes, the researchers said, the Soviets seemed to have exaggerated, and that is noted on the Web site. One goal of the project is to learn more exactly the numbers killed.
One little-known case comes from a German sailor who filmed killings in Liepaja, Latvia. The film has been on view for some years at the Yad Vashem museum. But the new Web site has a forgotten video of a 1981 interview with the sailor, Reinhard Wiener, who said he had been a bystander with a movie camera.
According to part of his account, “After the civilian guards with the yellow armbands shouted once again, I was able to identify them as Latvian home guardsmen. The Jews, whom I was able to recognize by now, were forced to jump over the sides of the truck onto the ground. Among them were crippled and weak people, who were caught by the others.
“At first, they had to line up in a row, before they were chased toward the trench. This was done by SS and Latvian home guardsmen. Then the Jews were forced to jump into the trench and to run along inside it until the end. They had to stand with their back to the firing squad. At that time, the moment they saw the trench, they probably knew what would happen to them. They must have felt it, because underneath there was already a layer of corpses, over which was spread a thin layer of sand.”
Ms. Prais said one of the discoveries that had most surprised her was the way in which Soviet Jews who survived the war made an effort to commemorate those who had perished. In distant fields and village squares they often placed a Star of David or some other memorial, despite fears of overt Jewish expression in the Soviet era.
“The silent Jews of the Soviet Union were not so silent,” she said.
The slaughter that some of them had escaped defies the imagination. One case Ms. Prais and her colleagues have cross-referenced involves what happened in the town of Krupki, Belarus, where the entire Jewish community of at least 1,000 was eliminated on Sept. 18, 1941.
A German soldier who took part in the mass killing kept a diary that was found on his body by the Allies, she said. In it, he wrote of having volunteered as one of “15 men with strong nerves” asked to eliminate the Jews of Krupki. “All these had to be shot today,” he wrote. The weather was gray and rainy, he observed.
The Jews had been told they were to be deported to work in Germany, but as they were forced into a ditch, the reality of their fate became evident. Panic ensued. The soldier wrote that the guards had a hard time controlling the crowd.
“Ten shots rang out, 10 Jews popped off,” he wrote. “This continued until all were dispatched. Only a few of them kept their countenances. The children clung to their mothers, wives to their husbands. I won’t forget this spectacle in a hurry....”

Iran's president is a symbol of a new anti-Semitism




MARCUS GEE

From Friday's Globe and Mail

According to Iran's state news agency, there was a "sensational scene" awaiting President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad when he came home from a United Nations anti-racism conference in Geneva this week.

Mr. Ahmadinejad told the conference that Israel is a "cruel and racist regime" founded on the "pretext" of Jewish suffering. Zionist supporters, he said, exercise "their domination to the extent that nothing can be done against their will." His original text was worse: He said Western countries "resorted to military aggression to make an entire nation homeless on the pretext of Jewish sufferings and the ambiguous and dubious question of Holocaust." Twenty-three European Union delegates walked out.

What an arse...what is it with some folks anyway? Focus on your own fuckups and stop blaming others for the messes of your country....

The Balkans....been a killing field for a thousand years....Eastern Europe is full of mass graves.....sheesh. Will we ever learn? i do not think so....for obvious reasons.

We should create a museum to help ensure these killings are never forgetted.

Miz point wrote:What an arse...what is it with some folks anyway? Focus on your own fuckups and stop blaming others for the messes of your country....

The Balkans....been a killing field for a thousand years....Eastern Europe is full of mass graves.....sheesh. Will we ever learn? i do not think so....for obvious reasons.

What do you think of these guys?
Why are Jews at the 'Holocaust denial' conference?

I have problems with comments like this
"These people do not represent anyone but themselves, and they certainly do not have the mandate to speak for religious Jews in particular. It is unfortunate that a handful of people give the world a distorted view of the jewish people, of Judaism and of religious Jews."
Who exactly would ever have a mandate to speak for religous Jews? Would that mean that person no matter what they said was 100% correct? How does one get the mandate to speak for other people?

Because they are arrogant enough to state as such.....

Deank wrote:I have problems with comments like this
"These people do not represent anyone but themselves, and they certainly do not have the mandate to speak for religious Jews in particular. It is unfortunate that a handful of people give the world a distorted view of the jewish people, of Judaism and of religious Jews."
Who exactly would ever have a mandate to speak for religous Jews? Would that mean that person no matter what they said was 100% correct? How does one get the mandate to speak for other people?

I dunno, give everyone a vote and see how "wins?"

how do you vote in the religous world?

say wouldnt the writer of that article be saying that he/she speaks for the entire Jewish world by saying that they dont speak for the Jewish world?

No

how no?

Simple statement of fact....that writer is accurate in terms of saying what they did because unless everyone in the Jewish community is in agreement that that person speaks for them (and that would be next to impossible to establish concensus) then how the hell could that person say they did speak for the community?

but him stating that they dont speak for everyone could just me.. they dont speak for 'insert name of writer'.

earth gets a day, joo bull sh1t gets a week?
the thought police use these holidays for making their list and checking it twice.
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The Joo Bible requires six million burnt offerings so the chosen can righteously resume the holy land.
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"joo bullsh*t"

OK, even if you are joking and you seem way too stupid to do that in a Rosen kinda way? Here are two solid words of advice that i am sure even you mr tick can comprehend....

fu*k off

What Miz point said. Plus tax.

Plus freight & handling.

And if there are any choruses for banning said bonehead? Nah, dont bother....as much as I am appalled I am also amused. Just like Elvis Costello sang....only he was disgusted.

We all need amusement in these emotionally trying times.

nah... no banning here....just needs a good bannock slap

Plus we are loathe to ban people. Our process involves the sandbox membership taking care of business. We don't need no pompous ass moderator involved.

You just proved it worked perfectly. Thank you.

Yep both sides are free to express their opinions.

grumpy old man wrote:Plus we are loathe to ban people. Our process involves the sandbox membership taking care of business. We don't need no pompous ass moderator involved.

You just proved it worked perfectly. Thank you.

you are most welcome....anytime i get to drop the f bomb in a sincere and not gratuitous way is wonderful....

sorry.
I'm not a fan of the grand victims.
lots of peeps die lots of places.
two cute blond girlies died in aphganland lately.
I wish our noose would brag about the deaths our forces have scored.
103 canuck dead and 1102 dead ragheads,..
yaa .
were winning