Trouble in River Heights

It's the ones NOT in jail that are the problem.

I think we need more jails.

With the lack of jail space, we started to release people because we had to...and that makes no sense. Real sentences have slowly eroded to the point of being just a token.

We must stop thinking from the point that someday those crooks will be back in the community, which it is now. We have to start protecting society, and not concentrating on the criminals' well-being.

Deank wrote:we have adult 150 people in jail for every 100K people in manitoba
we have 206 youth in jail for every 100K youth in the province

we have 205 police officers currently working for every 100K people in the province.

Those numbers are truly scary. Especially when one considers the racial make-up.

We really have to step up our efforts to end the horseh1te created by this situation. Educate man educate. An absolute must for the Manitoba Party (and paid for by the federal government).

...oh man...that's a can of worms...education...natives...the Feds...money....BOOM!!!

yikes...that's worth a lot of thought....

I know... just giving an example of how close the numbers are.

another example.. Winnipeg provincial court processed 50,819 charges in 2007... given that we have 650 K people in Winnipeg 204 cops per 100K people.. that means we have about 1500 cops.
so on average each cop got about 33 charges processed....seems to me we have enough cops... but with 50000+ new charges and less then 3000 people in jail currently....something is not working right... and it aint the cops

Man those Rona reports are detailed.

I recall in the back o'my mind that we have <1000 cops. Please reconcile this deank. Perhaps the Home Depot reports have more accurate numbers?

heh those reports are straight from the Manitoba Justice website

http://www.gov.mb.ca/justice/publications/annualreports/index.html

Okay, enough with the Rona jabs.

Winnipeg Police Service


Community Commitment
Established 1874
Jurisdiction Municipal
Sworn 1318
Non-sworn 413
Stations 5
Chief Keith McCaskill
Website http://www.winnipeg.ca/police/

From Wikipedia...

FlyingRat wrote:Okay, enough with the Rona jabs.

Maybe we should try jabbing McDiarmid instead?

FlyingRat wrote:Okay, enough with the Rona jabs.

More member moderation. But no, I refuse. Way to much fun for my puny brain. So there.

Does anyone know what per centage of criminal activity can be related to drugs?

All of it!

They either are using, selling, or need to be prescribed some!

...but seriously, I wonder just what effect removing the prohibition on drugs would have on the entire system...from the cops to the courts to the jails?

Profound I would suspect.

Me too.

Oy vey...the money we would save...

I don't think you'd actually save money... what the government doesn't spend prosecuting, would be collected in consumption taxes on the legal trade of the stuff! LOL

Police Reported Crime Homicide and Drugs




The police-reported drug crime rate has risen an estimated 42% since the early 1990s and now stands at a 20-year high. Three in four drug-related incidents in 2008 involved cannabis offences, about 72% of which were possession offences. The overall drug-related crime rate has been on an upward trend since 1993, driven by increases in cannabis possession, as well as production and importation offences. The cannabis offence rate has risen approximately 80% from 1997 to 2007, largely the result of increased numbers of possession offences. Trafficking offences declined over the same period.

Police reported almost 93,000 incidents related to the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act in 2007. Of these, about two-thirds were for possession, 22% were for trafficking, and the remainder was for offences involving importation and production

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From 1990 to 2007, about one in 10 homicides involved activities such as trafficking or the settling of drug-related accounts. Cocaine was involved in 60% of these drug-related homicides.




Young adults, adolescents have highest rates for drug-related offences


The incident-based Uniform Crime Reporting Survey (UCR2) captures detailed information on individual criminal incidents reported to police. Data from this non-representative subset account for 56% of the national volume of crime.
Based upon the UCR2, young adults aged 18 to 24 had the highest drug-related offence rate in 2006 (860 offences for every 100,000 people), followed by youth aged 12 to 17 (645 offences for every 100,000 people).
Rates for both cannabis possession and cannabis trafficking offences were also highest among young adults aged 18 to 24, followed by 12- to 17-year-olds in both instances.

The age group 18 to 24 also recorded the highest rates for cocaine trafficking and possession. Rates for both offences declined with age.



Just a sample of the latest silly report I get paid to write for the silly goverment .

About one in 10 homicides involved drugs


From 1999 to 2007, 694 homicide incidents in Canada were reported to be drug-related, representing 11% of all incidents during that period.
Cocaine was involved in 60% of drug-related homicide incidents, while cannabis was involved in 20%, heroin in 5% and other unspecified drugs in 15%. In addition, 26% of all drug-related homicides were also gang-related.

From 1996 to 2008, British Columbia and Quebec each accounted for 29% of drug-related homicides, the highest proportions. They were followed by Ontario, with 24%.
Heroin and cocaine involvement were highest in British Columbia. About 58% of heroin-related homicide incidents occurred there, as well as 33% of cocaine-related incidents.

In this over view we will also look at violence and the drug culture, the correlation of the two.

Drugs and Violence Related Crime





The crime rate among young people aged 12 to 17 climbed 3% between 2005 and 2006, according to data reported by Canadian police services. Compared with the previous year, violent crime rates among youth, including homicides, and crime rates for “other” Criminal Code offences such as mischief and disturbing the peace, were up in 2006

Even so, property crime rates were down and the overall rate of youth crime was 6% lower than a decade earlier and 25% below the peak in 1991, according to a new Juristat based on police-reported statistics.

In 2006, nearly 180,000 young people were implicated in some violation of the Criminal Code, excluding traffic offences. This translates to a youth crime rate of 6,885 youth accused for every 100,000 young people in this age group.

This study showed that the rate of violent crime among young people increased 12% in 10 years, and 30% since 1991. While property crime rates have declined over the course of the previous decade, these types of offences still accounted for about 4 in 10 youth crimes in 2006.

Drug-related crimes among youth have also climbed dramatically. The rate of drug offences among youth in 2006 was nearly twice what it was 10 years earlier


Note to readers


This data was released by the Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics (CCJS) uses police-reported data to look at trends in youth crime.
Data on incidents that come to the attention of the police are captured and forwarded to the CCJS via the Uniform Crime Reporting Survey according to a nationally approved set of common scoring rules, categories and definitions.
The Youth Criminal Justice Act (YCJA) came into force on April 1, 2003, replacing the Young Offenders Act. It requires police to consider the use of extrajudicial (non-court) measures for youths aged 12 to 17 who have committed less serious offences before considering a charge. As a result, it is essential to take into account both youths formally charged or recommended for charging by police and youths “cleared otherwise” in measuring youth criminal activity.

The youth crime rate is calculated based on the number of youth, aged 12 to 17, who have been accused of a criminal offence and formally charged, recommended to the Crown for charging by police or cleared by means other than the laying of a charge per 100,000 youth aged 12 to 17 in the population.



This is the overveiw of the report When presented it is 378 pages long .

So what would be the cost saving if all drugs were legal? Criminal activity lowered and how many fewer police would be needed, court room activity, Crown prosecutors, defense lawyers, judges, clerks, sheriffs, remand centers, jails, penitentiaries, guards etc.
How many $billions of savings and then the added income to the government because they could tax it like they do cigarettes and alcohol.
And we put the criminals , bikers , big posters , out of commission!
It is too simple to figure out! Harper needs his "war on Drugs" or was that George Bush? War on crime, or was that Bush?
We'll get to put more druggies in jaul at a cost of $80,000 each per year! Yes that makes sense, and then we'll get tough on climate change at the same time!!