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Sick.. I dont even know what to say...

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101Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:39 pm

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I bet a lawyer would sue the window manufacturer over it....commie bastards...

102Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:46 pm

FlyingRat

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Deank wrote:revenge aside... I just cant see any legal culpability on anyone's part besides Li.

Would I sue McDonald's if someone shot me through the window while eating a big mac?

Tim wasn't shot through a window!

The bus line has a perceived responsibility of providing security.
The government has a perceived responsibility of regulating the security rules.

This lawsuit will put pressure on both to tighten up security on buses.

I predict that Tim's family will receive a large payout, which will be turned into a scholarship in Tim's name. Or a possibly donation to the CMHR.

103Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:46 pm

grumpy old man

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Someone successfully sued McDonalds because she was so stupid and spilled hot coffee on her lap while driving.

104Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:47 pm

FlyingRat

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In the states, tho.

105Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:47 pm

grumpy old man

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You're funny today MrRat. Her settlement will likely be turned into a new house and car.

106Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:49 pm

FlyingRat

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I'm predicting not. I know... I'm being hopeful about her motives.

107Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:50 pm

Deank

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what security could have prevented this? Patting down every person? its not illegal to carry knives on a bus....

108Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:50 pm

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FlyingRat wrote:
Goth_chic wrote:
JTF wrote:They cannot accept the fact that Li is fcuked in the head, and didn't know what he was doing. They want revenge I feel.

Wouldn't you want revenge? I sure would. If some fricker murdered, beheaded and cannibalised my son or daughter I'd be seeing red. Li should be executed or better yet sent back to China. Let them deal with the freak of nature!
Who would you want revenge from if your child was killed in an accident?

Because the finding of "Not Criminally Responsible" boils down to the same thing.

I'll agree Li was an accident, too bad his mother never aborted.

I consider what happened to Tim McLean much different then a car accident or plane crash. An eye for an eye people....if someone murderers my child then they better watch out.

109Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:55 pm

FlyingRat

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Deank wrote:what security could have prevented this? Patting down every person? its not illegal to carry knives on a bus....
1. X-ray luggage like they do at airports. metal detectors. luggage inspection. armed guard on board.
2. Perhaps it *should* be illegal to carry knives on buses. That is a possible outcome from this lawsuit.

110Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:58 pm

FlyingRat

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Goth_chic wrote:

I consider what happened to Tim McLean much different then a car accident or plane crash. An eye for an eye people....if someone murderers my child then they better watch out.

With the ruling handed down, Li is not assessed any blame or punishment for his actions.
Therefore, there is no one to blame for this, much like an accident.
I understand how you'd feel, and that you'd want revenge, but under the law, that is not an option.

111Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:55 pm

Deank

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"1. X-ray luggage like they do at airports. metal detectors. luggage inspection. armed guard on board."

so you want to pay the same for bus riding as airfare? Would these rules extend to transit inside a city as well? If not why not? If so... who pays?

112Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:58 pm

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Deank wrote:"1. X-ray luggage like they do at airports. metal detectors. luggage inspection. armed guard on board."

so you want to pay the same for bus riding as airfare? Would these rules extend to transit inside a city as well? If not why not? If so... who pays?


the user pays, just like planes... thats is why i fly when i can drive to the place i am going. you can't even get a tooth pick on a plane with out them knowing! lol!

113Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:02 pm

FlyingRat

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How about the bus lines offer secure service and non-secure service, and travelers can chose which level of service and fare they wish to use. Vote with their wallet, so to speak. Of course, there will be outcry from the poverty advocates that the poor cannot afford secure travel....

Wouldn't work so well for transit, with all those stops. Let's see what happens when a beheading occurs on a transit bus....

114Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:04 pm

grumpy old man

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There has been considerable discussion about security for buses. They have a dynamic airlines don't face. Like terminals at every town and crossroads. How do you provide the security systems at the corner of Hwy 1 and 16 as you do at the bus terminal in Winnipeg?

If Air Canada dropped down to Estevan while en route from Winnipeg to Vancouver do ya suppose things might differ?

115Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:09 pm

FlyingRat

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Put metal detectors/ x-ray systems on the buses themselves.

116Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:14 pm

Deank

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hell air Canada flew to the pas airport.

There was a security area that was only manned jsut before planes were boarding, had a nice metal detector and everything.... and absolutely no one watching it when the air Canada plane was not boarding.

117Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:14 pm

AGEsAces

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How about just implementing something simple at the bus level?

Like installing a button on the floor for the driver to step on which activates a GPS warning back at dispatch?

Or put GPS tracking in all the vehicles and if they deviate from course or time by more than a set distance/amount it activates an automatic dispatch of emergency services?

The ADVANTAGE buses have, is that they can STOP, and/or just run into a wall. I don't agree with all the ridiculous security on the planes...but let's not get stupid on the buses too...keep it simple...and everyone will be safer and happier.

http://www.photage.ca

118Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:16 pm

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ooo oooo.... bus drivers steps on the magical pedal and a robotic controlled taZer shoots out at every passenger.

119Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:18 pm

FlyingRat

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Just like the pilot can depressurize the cabin and make all the passengers go night-night.... Wink LOL

120Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:05 am

grumpy old man

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Yet another installment of stupid politician tricks. This time from one of our more frequent stupid offenders: Theresa Oswald. This twit might well be the most stupid to hold such an important office.

Manitoba, are we ready to dump this party?
The fact that security plans for Vince Li’s escorted walks were made public on the two-year anniversary of his crime did not go unnoticed Friday.

Tim McLean Sr., whose son Tim Jr. was brutally killed by Li on July 30, 2008, found out about the plans Friday by reading about them on an online news site shortly after he’d returned from visiting the cemetery where his son was laid to rest.

He was not impressed.

“We’re very saddened by waking up to that news on Timothy’s anniversary,” he said. “It’s very insensitive.”

Tory justice critic Kelvin Goertzen also took issue with the timing.

“I think it’s shameful we’re talking about this today,” Goertzen said Friday. “I think it’s indicative of how all the attention has gone to Mr. Li and not to Tim McLean’s family.”

Health Minister Theresa Oswald said the plans were made public Friday because that’s when they were finalized.

“We have committed to keep the public informed. (The Selkirk MHC staff) were ready to go with their information today. The Selkirk Mental Health Centre committed to come forward with it as soon as possible,” Oswald said Friday. “If the timing of this information has caused one ounce of additional pain to the McLean family I want to offer my sincere regret.”

121Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:35 am

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Theresa Oswald is an incompetent and stupid b1tch for this insult to the family.

The plans were made public Friday because that’s when they were finalized indeed.

She's absolutely fcuken clueless.

122Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:39 am

grumpy old man

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I understand she used to be a roofer.

123Sick.. I dont even know what to say... - Page 5 Empty Re: Sick.. I dont even know what to say... Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:44 am

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Actually, I believe she was on roofies.....

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