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Stolen van crash kills teens

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1Stolen van crash kills teens Empty Stolen van crash kills teens Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:37 pm

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By: Aldo Santin Winnipeg Free Press

BLACK RIVER – This small, aboriginal community is in mourning this afternoon as it comes to grips with the tragic deaths last night of two young people. Trisha Jones, 18, and her cousin Tiffany Abraham, 19, died from injuries they received when the small car they were riding in collided with a van – stolen hours earlier from downtown Winnipeg.
Tiffany and her mother Merel Abraham had driven to Winnipeg earlier in the day to pick up Trisha, a first year student at the University of Winnipeg.

"It's difficult to comprehend because they are so young and they had so much potential," Chief Sheldon Kent said as he talked to the media that had come to the community 39 kilometres north of Pine Falls. Kent said the two young women were considered young leaders and role models for other youths in the community.

Merel Abraham received minor injuries in the crash and is recuperating at home in Black River. She did not speak to media today.

Abraham's mother was driving a Neon travelling north when it was struck by a westbound Plymouth Voyageur around 8 p.m. The woman was rushed to Selkirk hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. The van, with three people inside, had been reported stolen on Tuesday night in Winnipeg.

The collision occurred at the intersection of Hwy. 59 and Stead Road. A 27-year-old man from Scanterbury was arrested and is in custody. The other occupants of the van -- a 24-year-old man from Scanterbury, and a 29-year-old woman from Winnipeg -- were taken to the Health Sciences Centre in Winnipeg with non-life threatening injuries.

RCMP said alcohol is believed to be a factor and the investigation is ongoing.

2Stolen van crash kills teens Empty Re: Stolen van crash kills teens Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:41 pm

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very tragic loss for the community.

3Stolen van crash kills teens Empty Re: Stolen van crash kills teens Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:43 pm

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When can we expect a press conference from the Chiefs expressing their outrage over this and blaming it on the Winnipeg Police?

When can we expect a press conference from the Chiefs expressing their outrage over this and demanding the provincial and federal governments take responsibility because the thieves have: FAS; were traumatized by the CFS; their grandparents attended residential school...?

When is enough enough?

4Stolen van crash kills teens Empty Re: Stolen van crash kills teens Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:52 pm

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Whomever authorized the building of a road way up there should be arrested!
Why do we assume this is an aboriginal problem?
Are we anti-aboriginal?
U of W is mentioned- If Mayor Sam had his fast rail system in place , there would have been no reason to pick the girl up!
This is on Sam's watch!

http://www.elansofas.com

5Stolen van crash kills teens Empty Re: Stolen van crash kills teens Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:10 pm

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Interesting. The vehicle had an immobilizer, however the driver left it running while they ran into VJ's to place a take out order.

Is there a responsibilty of the owner in this due to that?

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6Stolen van crash kills teens Empty Re: Stolen van crash kills teens Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:12 pm

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None of this would have happened if the owner of the Plymouth Voyager hadn't left his van running while he went to place his order at VJ's Drive Inn. He didn't see any customers inside, thought he'd be in and out.........thats all it takes. I'm certain he must be feeling a little guilty right now.

7Stolen van crash kills teens Empty Re: Stolen van crash kills teens Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:50 pm

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Yes but it is it to much to ask that society wouldn't steal it .

8Stolen van crash kills teens Empty Re: Stolen van crash kills teens Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:15 am

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I would not feel guilty. I would feel alot of anger then someone did this with my vehicle.. zero guilt. I would feel extremely guilty if I did it myself.. so much so that I doubt I would live more then a few minutes after...but having ones vehicle stolen, regardless of one leving the keys in it... should not be a guilt factor

9Stolen van crash kills teens Empty Re: Stolen van crash kills teens Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:41 am

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The guy ordered a meal that had over 2000 mgms of sodium!
He will end up having a heart attack or blocked arteries and be a huge cost to our health care system.

But worth it!

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10Stolen van crash kills teens Empty Re: Stolen van crash kills teens Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:05 am

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I'd shot the perp for stealing it , and go to the funeral of the girls . Cool

11Stolen van crash kills teens Empty Re: Stolen van crash kills teens Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:49 am

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eastsider wrote:None of this would have happened if the owner of the Plymouth Voyager hadn't left his van running while he went to place his order at VJ's Drive Inn. He didn't see any customers inside, thought he'd be in and out.........thats all it takes. I'm certain he must be feeling a little guilty right now.

OHHHH I was wondering how they got around MPI's "fool proof" Rolling Eyes imobilizer. but that makes sense to then. Althougth a friend of mine used to install those for MPI and inless things have changed, they only use one relay. all it takes is knowing where that relay is and a peice of wire to short it out and your good to go. Thats why when my friend would do his friends and families cars, he would 3 or 4 relays in it.

12Stolen van crash kills teens Empty Re: Stolen van crash kills teens Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:51 am

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rosencrentz wrote:The guy ordered a meal that had over 2000 mgms of sodium!
He will end up having a heart attack or blocked arteries and be a huge cost to our health care system.

But worth it!


Not now, he's gonna be doing alot of walking inless he had "loss of use" on his insurance.

13Stolen van crash kills teens Empty Re: Stolen van crash kills teens Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:52 am

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Lets just keep the 2 things separate. The guy is an idiot to leave the vehicle running. I, too, have been tempted to whip into VJ's for a quick fix of grease, but leaving the van running is just stupid.

That being said (I learned that line from Gary Dothing), no matter how dumb the owner of the van was, it does not mitigate what the little creeps have done. They killed 2 completely innocent people. It sounds like this 2 young ladies were trying to make a life for themselves and their community.

The wrong people died in the collision.

14Stolen van crash kills teens Empty Re: Stolen van crash kills teens Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:53 am

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"The wrong people died in the collision."

100% agreed

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