Makes good business sense????

I dont understand these ads out on buses and TV and Radio lately.

They basically say that hiring an individual with some sort of handicap "makes good business sense". How? Seriously, HIRING ANY EMPLOYEE THAT DOES THEIR JOB WELL "makes good business sense". How does that employee being handicap make more sense? What about them being handicap makes them better employees? Do they get to choose some sort of superpower from a list when they have a handicap?

Because the businesses that hire them get free advertising from the government ads?

AHHHHHH!

Speaking of advertising...how's this for an advertising campaign?:

Coming to a Canadian City Soon

meh. Anyone who truly believes in god should not even really care at all about the ads. And anyone that does not truly believe, why would they care and be upset?

AGEsAces wrote:Speaking of advertising...how's this for an advertising campaign?:

Coming to a Canadian City Soon

I'm all for that!

Some people have too much money and too much time on their hands.

If you use public transportation, you should be careful what you say about God, he could be sitting next to you.

lol

You never know, do you just saying .

Heh heh...would God be taking the bus to work?

I'm sure God is laughing at the idea Herself.

I believe Freeman might just be a Joane Osbourne fan... or any of the other people who remade the song I guess.
If God had a name, what would it be
And would you call it to his face
If you were faced with him in all his glory
What would you ask if you had just one question

Yeah, yeah, God is great
Yeah, yeah, God is good
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home

If God had a face, what would it look like
And would you want to see
If seeing meant that you would have to believe
In things like heaven and in jesus and the saints
And all the prophets and...

Yeah, yeah, God is great
Yeah, yeah, God is good
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home

Tryin to make his way home
Back up to heaven all alone
Nobody callin on the phone
cept for the pope maybe in rome

Yeah, yeah, God is great
Yeah, yeah, God is good
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home

Just tryin to make his way home
Like a holy rolling stone
Back up to heaven all alone
Just tryin to make his way home
Nobody callin on the phone
cept for the pope maybe in rome

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Let's say 10% of people had a disability in a population of 1 Mil. 100k would have a disability.

Let's say due to limitations their employment rate is much less than average with a lot lower pay scale... Let's say employment rate in the country is 75% and $30k: persons w/ a disability have a 50% employment rate and $20k per person.

1M x 75% x $30k = 22.5 Billion dollars
100k x 50% x $20k = 1 Billion dollars
if pay and stuff were equal:
100k x 75% x $30k = 2.25 Billion dollars

Welfare rate costs. At 50% employment rate: 100k x 50% x $12k = $600 M + administrative costs
Welfare rate costs. At 75% employment rate: 100k x 25% x $12k = $300 M + w/ < admin costs
for a difference of $300 M in costs.

So $1B-$600M = $400M vs. $2.25B-$300M = $1.95B

A huge difference to the economy. $1.55 Billion dollars EVERY year if persons w/ a disability had the same employment and pay rates. Of course all my numbers are entirely made up... I just wanted to illustrate the formula... I'm sure you understand what I'm getting at Dean... Although a few won't >.<

oh I understand what you are getting at for sure death. I just dont undestand how it is better to hire one person over another for any reason, let alone because they have a disability :.

Hire the person that is best for the job...regardless of what group she/he is from...10% of the population group included

Heh... $1.5 Billion dollars a year.

For whatever reason, persons with a disability are being excluded. There are jobs that CAN be done by a person w/ a disability. 'If not now? When? If not us? Who?' (quote from some dude, forget who).

$1.5 Billion dollars a year in benefit to the economy.... How would this affect the average taxpayer vs. the individual who can easily get another job? Think of your country. Canada FTW!

Just curious death. Were the disabled given the job ahead of someone else would that not be displacing another? Would that other displaced person go on welfare? You might say he has more options. Sure but the food chain is not infinite...

The math looks good but does not hold up.

At least the person with a disability will have some chance at a life style which we take for granted. The numbers are still skewed one way.

AGEsAces wrote:Speaking of advertising...how's this for an advertising campaign?:

Coming to a Canadian City Soon

I think it's a bad idea running those ads in public places. Imagine the outrage over a Christian billboard that said "Jesus is the only messiah. All other religions are wrong."

IMO, it's a double standard.

But back to the topic, I think there is nothing wrong with promoting employment for the disabled. Many disabled people have very limited choices in what occupations they can choose from, so encouraging companies to hire people with disabilities is a very good thing.

Now if we put a couple of real numbers in. Pop. Canada 30M PWD 3.6M (12.4%) and my made up numbers:

3.6M X 50% X $20K = $36 Billion dollars
if pay and stuff was equal
3.6M X 75% X $30K = $81 Billion dollars

Welfare costs:
3.6M X 50% X $12K = $21.6 Billion dollars
3.6M X 25% X $12K = $10.8 Billion dollars

$36 Billion - $21.6 Billion = $14.4 Billion dollars to the economy
if things were equal:
$81 Billion - $10.8 Billion = $70.2 Billion dollars to the economy

For a difference of $55.8 Billion dollars a year.

$55.8 Billion dollars a year. Of course there would be multiple negative aspects and I just don't have the numbers right. It WOULD still make a heck of a lot of difference to you and me...

http://www4.hrsdc.gc.ca/.3ndic.1t.4r@-eng.jsp?iid=40

With all due respect death128 those numbers are meaningless. Ya can't just throw numbers around willy-nilly. There must be some facts and science behind it to be of any value.

Suffice to say Canadian society would be better off if people with disabilities were properly represented in today's workforce. No question.

I have a job what else do you want

"With all due respect death128 those numbers are meaningless. Ya can't just throw numbers around willy-nilly. There must be some facts and science behind it to be of any value."

human rights museum

grumpy old man wrote:
Suffice to say Canadian society would be better off if people with disabilities were properly represented in today's workforce. No question.

That's all I'm getting at, really. I'm just pointing out how much of a difference it would make. And why there are acts of law regarding these types of groups of people.

Erm... Lloyd Axworthy has stated that there was a study done by a bunch of professionals with regards to Aboriginals and if the rates of employment and the rates of pay were the same than non-aboriginals the economy would benefit in the amount of $160 Billion a year. >.< These people have to be right!! They're professionals!! And they did a study!! I assume it would be the same type of deal for persons with disabilities.

Ha ha...Lloyd never met a place where he didn't want to throw money into....I think we still have some empty foreign embassies left over from when he was in External Affairs....

...or are you being facetious by your Axworthy reference?

He is twice the negotiator Stephen will ever be , no question of that and he is not in big bussiness pocket. OIL