Dziekanski murderers wont be charged

Seems like standard MO. Police - off-duty and on - kill innocent peeps; police get off scott free.

Don't forget they have a difficult job to do. God only knows they only had a few precious seconds to spare in the Dziekanski matter. Perhaps they had an urgent coffee break to attend to. Otherwise I'm certain they might have attempted to talk Dziekanski down rather than immediately reach for the tazer.

This is disappointing. But let's wait until the official announcement though. Perhaps the officers involved will in fact get a slap on the wrist.

"RCMP have said the officers could not testify under oath about the events while the investigation was ongoing and no decision had been made on criminal charges."
Why? because if they testified under oath without immunity... they would go to jail? Seems pretty stupid... well we want you to tell the truth.. but if you wont tell the truth unless you are positive you wont be charged...hmm well I guess we better give you a get out of jail free card..

that is so stupid. What is more important here.. the inquest itself or punishing the killers? I would vote for punishing the killers personally.

I wonder if anyone is going to address the fact that RCMP officers lied in their initial report of the incidence?

Seems to me that the 1st report was not quite an acccurate portrayal of what the "caught on video" showed!

Good point rosen. They did indeed lie. And should be sanctioned for that. They did apply too much force much too early, resulting in death. They should be sanctioned for that. But they don't seem to have an appetite to prosecute these chumps.

They did not intend to kill the man but when they apply the kind of force they did without good reason then I believe they ought not be police officers. Perhaps the greatest sanction we could apply to these clowns is to fire them.

That would satisfy me.

rosencrentz wrote:I wonder if anyone is going to address the fact that RCMP officers lied in their initial report of the incidence?
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well sure they will.. thats why they need the inquest so that a very well paid retired judge can tell them... dont lie...dont kill people.

Some day, soon, probably under Harper's watch, there will be a commission of inquiry into situations like these that are run by an independant source!

In the U.S. in the Khadr case that is before the U.S. military court, the military judge did not allow the pictures of the scene, where they found Khadr, supposedly under rubble, because it might "show that Khadr was innocent" ! (statement from the defense)

It does not matter what you read or hear- there are lying lyars all around us.
I heard on CJOB Friday morning a rant against the U.S. auto workers where the CJOB guy quoted that the US workers are getting $78 per hour as compared to the $38 quote from the Toyota, Nissan workers. Totally false per hour quote!
What they are adding in to the earnings are the costs for all the retired workers, and widows!
Since the japanese are new on the scene as compared to the 60 year old US auto worker union, hence the lower quote.
But the fact remains is the workers get very close to the same earnings per hour, and the fudged numbers, which are being quoted as an hourly earning rate is completely false!
"statistics don't lie, statisticians do!" was the 1st lesson taught to me at my 1st statistics class, back in 1789!

yeah thats not per hour what they make.. thats per hour what it costs GM etc in wages and benefits on average including the retired people who make a crapload.

The retired people account for more than the present workers. Talk about problematic.

The health benefit is killing them, if nothing else.

The real question is why is the health benefit crushing them? Wouldn't happen to be because there's no laws in the US that require companies to fully fund their pension liabilities is it?

No because there retired workers are still on the plan, have you used a US doctor and paid the bill .

I expect the problems with retired workers are on one side of the border more so than the other?

Whatever. The plan is a problem from so many perspectives. First and foremost it is an incredibly rich plan. I seriously doubt most companies could afford such a retirement plan. I also expect recessionary times like now kick the merda outta pension plans, fully funded or no.

Union guys retireing at 55 with full pensions can cause a problem also I'd suggest.

Good perspective in The Star today....

The McGuinty and Harper governments are willing to intervene but they want to do it right. On the other hand, proponents of a bailout package want to be fast. If you are right but late, they say, we will fall into a real economic disaster.
That may well be true, but it might be worse to be fast and wrong because what's at stake is $6.8 billion from Canadian taxpayers. We cannot afford to waste that kind of money by giving it to the same business leaders who landed us in this mess, won't apologize for their mistakes and won't tell us how to fix it.

http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/553268

It should also be noted that Canadians will not stop buying vehicles were the Big Three to go under. Toyota and Honda and other manufacturers will enjoy the new business. And they will need increased manufacturing capacity. And other businesses to support the increased production. And more dealerships.

Don't get me wrong. I don't want them to go under. But they and the unions have only themselves to blame. Let's just make sure that the other manufacturers don't fall into the same old Buzz-trap...

The only hope of the big three recovering is if they declare bankruptcy. It has been in the offing for years now....so I'm surprised some didn't see it coming.

When the unions won't take a pay-cut, I say Fcuk Them!!! See you in the welfare line!!

Yes this would solve a few problems and get them out from under the contracts, they signed when times were good .

back to this sick ass bastards who killed dziekanski...

I wonder if things have changed enough, with the evidence showing that the RCMP officers report was anything but truthful!