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qualify for EI in 15 days?

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26qualify for EI in 15 days? - Page 2 Empty Re: qualify for EI in 15 days? Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:01 am

Freeman


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Deank wrote:I thought that it was lower then 1.4 now?

There are ways to reduce the contribution based on what other benefits may be provided in the way of a short term disability plan. Bascially, if your employer provides an STD (clean it up, you know what I mean) in the form of paid sick leave for shorter term illness or injury, then the employer premium can be reduced. It's an individual business decision, and in our case, it would be quite expensive to offer the benefit vs the reduction in premiums.

27qualify for EI in 15 days? - Page 2 Empty Re: qualify for EI in 15 days? Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:06 am

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Freeman wrote:Um...excuse me, but did everyone forget that the EMPLOYER pays 1.4 times what the employee does, so its really not just an insurance program. Nobody helps me pay for my house or life insurance.

Considering that employees can only collect nowaday's as a result of lay-offs or maternity and NOT for being let go with cause or quitting, I don't see it as a huge deal that the employer pay some of the premium. No different than employers co-paying LTD and STD by choice, seems like you just don't like being told you must provide EI premiums for your employees. Do you feel the same about WCB contributions also? Is that also not an insurance program?

28qualify for EI in 15 days? - Page 2 Empty Re: qualify for EI in 15 days? Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:07 am

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"Nobody helps me pay for my house or life insurance."

Your employer graciously pays you

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29qualify for EI in 15 days? - Page 2 Empty Re: qualify for EI in 15 days? Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:14 am

Freeman

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grumpyrom wrote:
Considering that employees can only collect nowaday's as a result of lay-offs or maternity and NOT for being let go with cause or quitting, I don't see it as a huge deal that the employer pay some of the premium. No different than employers co-paying LTD and STD by choice, seems like you just don't like being told you must provide EI premiums for your employees. Do you feel the same about WCB contributions also? Is that also not an insurance program?

First of all, you're WRONG. Benefits can be collected in cases of termination for cause or resigation, its on a case by case basis.

Ad since you don't pay the employer premiums, of course you wouldn't consider it a huge deal.

What it seems like is just another form of taxation on employers.

In the case of WCB, it also provides insurance to the employer, as its a no fault system that prohibits an employee from suing an employer in the event of a workplace injury or accident, so it is a form of insurance for the employer.

Its always best to get your facts straight before making comments.

30qualify for EI in 15 days? - Page 2 Empty Re: qualify for EI in 15 days? Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:19 am

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I don't know anyone who has ever been accepted for being terminated with cause or quitting, and I know a few who have tried (foolishly). Considering how difficult it is to have your claim accepted if you are a seasonal worker (from past experiences) I have a difficult time accepting that the likelyhood of someone quitting and recieving benefits to be anything other than a very small percentage. Case by case basis IMHO means not bloody likely.

31qualify for EI in 15 days? - Page 2 Empty Re: qualify for EI in 15 days? Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:20 am

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I thought that sounded wrong, because we get guys quite often who come work for a couple months, and then I hear they are looking for an ROE for EI.

Sometimes it's because we don't have work for them, sometimes it's because they are lazy and don't want to work so they quit.

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32qualify for EI in 15 days? - Page 2 Empty Re: qualify for EI in 15 days? Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:25 am

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grumpyrom wrote:I don't know anyone who has ever been accepted for being terminated with cause or quitting, and I know a few who have tried (foolishly). Considering how difficult it is to have your claim accepted if you are a seasonal worker (from past experiences) I have a difficult time accepting that the likelyhood of someone quitting and recieving benefits to be anything other than a very small percentage. Case by case basis IMHO means not bloody likely.

Know lots of folks who quit, but collected because they came up with a good sob story (my boss was mean, had to work shifts, my kids missed me) Ditto for those who were fired (didn't know I couldn't be late!!, I'm sick a lot)

33qualify for EI in 15 days? - Page 2 Empty Re: qualify for EI in 15 days? Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:27 am

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They may have quit, worked elsewhere for a few months and need the ROE from a past employer (you) to file for benefits as proof of having worked the required hours for filing. This happened quite a few times at one of my former employers. EI requires all hours worked for the last 13 pay periods minimum if my memory serves me correctly (it's been a long time). Depending on the circumstances they sometimes want ROE's for the last year. So if someone worked 2 or 3 jobs in a 6 month period and were laid off at the last one, they could possibly need ROE's from the first and second employer as well.

34qualify for EI in 15 days? - Page 2 Empty Re: qualify for EI in 15 days? Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:28 am

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Freeman wrote:
grumpyrom wrote:I don't know anyone who has ever been accepted for being terminated with cause or quitting, and I know a few who have tried (foolishly). Considering how difficult it is to have your claim accepted if you are a seasonal worker (from past experiences) I have a difficult time accepting that the likelyhood of someone quitting and recieving benefits to be anything other than a very small percentage. Case by case basis IMHO means not bloody likely.

Know lots of folks who quit, but collected because they came up with a good sob story (my boss was mean, had to work shifts, my kids missed me) Ditto for those who were fired (didn't know I couldn't be late!!, I'm sick a lot)

Maybe you attract the wrong types of people, or maybe some of their "stories" are true.

35qualify for EI in 15 days? - Page 2 Empty Re: qualify for EI in 15 days? Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:24 pm

Freeman

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ROE's are issued for all "interuption of earnings".

My experiences are based on first hand accounts, not the mere issuing of a form.

I guess if we had a union, we'd attract the "right" people. sarcasm end

36qualify for EI in 15 days? - Page 2 Empty Re: qualify for EI in 15 days? Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:50 pm

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Speaking of unions...John Stossel is doing a special regarding that very issue (unions bankrupting America). The special airs on Saturday I believe.

37qualify for EI in 15 days? - Page 2 Empty Re: qualify for EI in 15 days? Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:17 pm

grumpyrom

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When does he do the report on CEO's sitting on 2 trillion dollars in cash because they "fear" the Obama administration? That wouldn't have any economic impact during this recovery period one would think. Or the one on outsourcing everything to China? Is that one next?

The Americans have bigger problems to worry about IMHO.

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