BITSA bill debate

So, effectively, what they're saying is they don't have to balance the budget anymore, but why don't they just come clean? Why don't they stand in their place and say, quite emphatically to Manitobans, rather than put it into this bill and hide it, why don't they stand up and say, we no longer believe in balanced budgets?

They ran on it in 1999. The then-Premier Gary Doer said, oh, no, no, no, no, this is a really good policy of the Conservative government and we're going to carry on with that policy on balanced budgets. That's what Manitobans want. That's what Canadians want so we're going to carry on. They ran on it, actually, in 2007. I was there. I ran in that election and, in 2007, the then-Premier Gary Doer said, we're not going to change anything. We're still going to maintain balanced budgets.

But in the original balanced budget legislation they said if the ministers aren't efficient enough and if they aren't managing their departments properly and they should lose money or not balance the budget for a two-year period, the first year, they'd lose 20 percent of their ministerial salaries. If it happened two years in a row, they'd lose 40 percent of their ministerial salaries. Now, we know, we know that rather than worry about Manitobans and their own financial issues, ministers of the Crown were very, very concerned now when it hit their own pocketbooks. They don't mind spending money foolishly if it's not theirs. If it's taxpayers' money, it's okay. We'll spend it. We can waste it. We can waste it on a west-side line. We can waste it on enhanced ID. We can waste it on advertising. We can waste that–[interjection]

It doesn't matter. It doesn't affect them. But, when it starts to affect the ministers and 40 percent of their salary, well, guess what, Mr. Speaker? We have to change the rules again. If we don't have enough in there right now to manipulate it, then let's change it again. Well, they changed it again and it's right here in this piece of legislation. The wrong place, it should be in the balanced budget legislation. But, no, let's hide it so Manitobans don't know what the real motive is for the BITSA. And the real motive for the BITSA is save our salaries. Don't take 40 percent of the ministerial salaries.

Pavolo wrote:Wonder if they were to cut your income JTF what your view be , for that fact mine . Easy to criticise when it is not your paycheque

And so what it is a LAW have not they been broken before for someone 's convenience or reason of said.

grumpy old man wrote:

And so what it is a LAW have not they been broken before for someone 's convenience or reason of said.

Huh? My pavlov-to-English translator is not working.

Pavolo wrote:[...simple enough for you now Grumpy...

Pavolo wrote:Get over it or run to change it bitching on here doe's dick.

Pavolo wrote:...bitching on here doe's dick...

Pavolo wrote:And where did I say it was okay .