Israel Apartheid Week to be staged at U of M

no need to take anything personally edwin, i dont take even goms, freemans or miz points insults to heart. the point i am trying to make is that i think this is a PUBLIC forum, open to all points of view. if its not i would like for a moderator to inform me of that. my opposition to zionism is not unique to me, i just have the balls to post it. with the exception of a few.

This forum is open to all POVs. Even idiots need a soapbox...

israel is an enemy because it is the home base for zionism. zionism does not discriminate which people it will attack. it goes after everthing inits path. it does not care who you are, it has its goals, if it has its way you will be its slave. the thing i dont understand is how people believe the zionist meda knowing full well it is controlled by zionists. is this self hatred? or just full blown successful brainwashing? do not be afraid of them, they cannot hurt you.

Some might say that is the CIA

rosencrentz wrote:I don't think I have ever seen a country attack Israel! Usually they get up to 6 countries to attack to keep it fair and balanced.
There are 300 million Arabs surrounding 5 million Jews, hardly a fair number.

It balances out quickly when you factor in the Billions of dollars that the American Government has given to Israel.

GOM- I hate being called an idiot! Please leave that to the private messages the other posters send me, so my feelings won't be hurt!
Oh , hell, I don't really care!

toban71 wrote:

rosencrentz wrote:I don't think I have ever seen a country attack Israel! Usually they get up to 6 countries to attack to keep it fair and balanced.
There are 300 million Arabs surrounding 5 million Jews, hardly a fair number.

It balances out quickly when you factor in the Billions of dollars that the American Government has given to Israel.

Why do people care what Americans donate to/fund Israel?

What do you suppose would have happened to Israel had they not been able to defend themselves?

Some interesting comments in the Freep about the lobbying effort to cancel the event.

Every one has a right to their ideas about killing the rest of the Jews! The 4000 year history of the Jews is one of continual discrimination, picking on a people who were raised to turn the other cheek, and it wasn't until 1920's that it started with Israel's 1st president(1948), that the Hagana started , with the idea that Jews should try and defend themselves using actual bullets, instead of words.
I think that was the complete downfall of the quiet, jew, the one that was picked on , that simply would leave the Country that didn't want any minorities, usually leaving their homes and business' and sofas and paintings behind.
When the Jews in 1948 bought guns and bullets , from the Soviets ,when all the 6 surrounding Nations declared war on Israel in 1948, the Arabs were pissed that they were being shot at.
They were dumbfounded that the Jews had guns and bullets, because the Arabs expected to kill all Jews. That was the "normal" , expected thing ! Too bad!
Now, Israel has the atomic bomb, has planes flying continually, in case a nuclear attack takes place, and has U.S. support, and support from all countries.
djh goesn't know any Jew! cannot call one a friend, but thank G-d that he isn't anti-semitic, just doesn't like the thought of Jews having a country to call their own, and wants all Black people to go back to Africa, and get all Aboriginals out of the city, and send all Italians, Ukrainians, etc back to their homeland to try and keep this Country "pure"!!
Thank goodness for free speach!
djh- if the forum has a get together this summer at my place, you haave to come to meet this jewish person, so I cannot keep pointing out the fact that you are complaining about a people that you do not know anything about!
Last summet we had about a dozen forum members out to have a barbeque at my home, and 3 of them hated Jews when they arrived and all 3 ended up saying- "Wow, if all jews are like you and MizP, boy have we been mislead from those nasty comments that we got from the websites"
I will apologize in advance, that we probably won't be on Wellington Crescent, where all jews live!

Rosencrentz, are you saying that Israel is beyond criticism because Jews have been unjustly persecuted and discriminated against?

Read some of these quotes from Israelis and see if you believe that Israel is beyond criticism.

Israel should continue to be militarily strong, the strongest power in the middle-east, IMHO. But, no country should be shielded from critical inquiry.

Israel can do whatever they want.

I just want the other countries from stopping their support of Israel.

Israel acts like a little bully in the sandbox who has a big brother that will come to their rescue at a moments notice.

If Israel wants to pick fights with the Islamic countries they can do it on their own.

Why?

grumpy old man wrote:Why?

You're against Federal transfer payments, right?

Manitoba should be a "have province."

Perhaps Israel should be a "have country"?

Not the same thing.

If any one bothers to check about being bullied, it certainly isn't Israel going out of their way to bully anyone. Since the country began in 1948, they have continually worked towards signing peace treaties with the surrounding Arab countries. There is plenty to criticise.
Why would one want any country to stop helping out any country? i do not understand.
In 1948, if Czechoslovakia hadn't allowed Israel to purchase arms, Israel wouldn't have been able to survive the onslaught of the 6 Arab countries that attacked.
And the reason the sale of arms was OK'd, was the Russians figured that would screw up the USA in the area!
Little bully? I think not! 300 million hostile Arabs versus 6 million in Israel.
There is a very strong lawcourt system, beased on the British system, in Israel that protects all of its citizens, both Jewish and non- Jewish.
The criticism that goes on in Israel is the same open criticism that is allowed in Canada, and 3 states in the US! lol
Look at Harper being hammered by the media regarding sending some Arabs to be tortured . Try that type of criticism in any of those Arab countries that are surrounding Israel!
Israel gets support from many countries, all of them "free". The US gives aid because of the CIA base in israel, and the landing rights they have to take over any other arab nation.
The US is expecting Israel to "take out" Iran's nuclear attempt! that is another reason why the continual support. Israel looked after Iraq, and have been paid for that deed.
Can you imagine Sadam Hussein still in control with nuclear weapons in Iraq?
That is why the U.S. supports Israel. besides have you tasted the great oranges that israel produces? When land was being bought back in the 1920's, the Arabs sold their swamps to the Jews at a rate of 10 to 20 times what that land was worth! They "jewed" the Jews!
The stupid Jewish land buyers, went and drained the swamps and made the land produce crops.
The other thread about Zionism, and Zionism was from 1890 to 1948, u til the jewish state was formed, also criticises the Jews.
So much trouble over so few !
I can understand the critics here in Wpg, with a jewish mayor, one step worse than a gay Mayor! lol

oranges and uzis are israels only products. this sick joke the un and the us and britain played and continue to play on the world must stop. when will it end? many people in the world think it will end with the liquidation of the jewish race, and it is a race. my view is that it doesnt have to. zionists will have you believe ALL jews are united in their fanatical stand on jewish supremacy. this simply is not the case. iran had a conference a few years ago on zionism and there were many orthodox rabbis who attended.

grumpy old man wrote:Not the same thing.

What is the reason for Canada to support Israel?

What is Canada getting out of it?

Why does Canada not support Palestine? What makes Israel so special?

the reason many assume we should support israel is very simple. they are indocrinated by the zionist media. they have no other choice in their minds because their minds do not belong to them. ive thought about this subject for years and its the only logical reason for this. no matter what anyone says, they will defend israel and zionism to their last breath.

grumpy old man wrote:Not the same thing.

S'plain, please.

You've always said that if we want to know your views on something, we should just ask.

jewish people expressing their support for israel is understandable. not showing their support may get them ostrasized in their own community. the truly brave jews are out there. in the freep article link provided by triniman has an example of this. zionists are cowards, like the local leader of the bnai brith, matas. they try to look frail and weak to manipulate the audience. but their lawyers and goons are always present. they dont strike fear in me.

sputnik wrote:

grumpy old man wrote:Not the same thing.

What is the reason for Canada to support Israel?

What is Canada getting out of it?

Why does Canada not support Palestine? What makes Israel so special?

Not sure why you're asking me. Google it and maybe something about Canada's mid-east policies is available.

Triniman wrote:

grumpy old man wrote:Why?

You're against Federal transfer payments, right?

Manitoba should be a "have province."

Perhaps Israel should be a "have country"?

I am.

I agree.

It is.

That help?

djh wrote:oranges and uzis are israels only products.

Bullsh1t. If you want your view to be taken seriously don't post rubbish.

Main industries:
high-technology projects (including aviation, communications, computer-aided design and manufacture, medical electronics, fiber optics), wood and paper products, potash and phosphates, food, beverages, and tobacco, caustic soda, cement, construction, metal products, chemical products, plastics, diamond cutting, textiles and footwear

Export goods:
machinery and equipment, software, cut diamonds,
agricultural products, chemicals, textiles and apparel, military
equipment, food.

Import goods:
raw materials, military equipment, investment goods, rough diamonds, fuels, grain, consumer goods

Source: Wikipedia

canadas mid east policies closely resemble that of the us. the is a org. called aipac in washington. they are the most powerful lobby group in the us. the america israel political action commitee can make or break any politicians career. this is just another example of zionist tentacles that are present in our society. it looks like the aspers are getting bailed out by none other than goldman sachs, recipient of many billions of govt bailout money. i willing to bet if their name was anderson, they would not be rescued.

gom, the industries you indicated do not specify if they are israeli or how large they are. i guess my 5 gallon pail of homemade beer qualifies me as a food and beverage manufacturer.