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NDP removes democracy from Manitoba.

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Miz point
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1NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:04 am

Deank

Deank
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http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/election-financing-sparks-revolt-talk-83868817.html

i couldn;t not comment on this piece of garbage. Thanks alot NDP for making it impossible for many people to run for council.

2NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:25 am

Guest

Anonymous
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This sums it up perfectly.


"We're not dealing with the sharpest knives in the drawer on Broadway," Clement said.

3NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:28 am

Freeman

Freeman
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How stupid can they be? It sounds like even someone who has saved up enough to mount their own campaign to run for civic office, really can't do that, because they would be "donating to themselves." Trust the commies to come up with an idea like this.
Be prepared for a campaign of second rate candidates as those with the drive and desire will be choked off by this stupidity.

4NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:29 am

Guest

Anonymous
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Deank wrote:http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/election-financing-sparks-revolt-talk-83868817.html

i couldn;t not comment on this piece of garbage. Thanks alot NDP for making it impossible for many people to run for council.

Not neccessarily....


According to several councillors, this will encourage councillors who wind up fundraising too little to simply not pay the companies who print up election pamphlets or produce election signs.

"You can incur debt, but you can't pay it back? This makes no sense," said Mynarski Coun. Harry Lazarenko


Clement also said the rule could drive campaign fundraising underground and accomplish the precise opposite of the legislation's intent: a brown-envelope exchange of illicit campaign cash.

5NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:32 am

Freeman

Freeman
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This is just more socialist crap. If I beleive in a candidate, and want to give them all of my kids education money, who's business is that? No matter how much an individual donates to a campaign, they only get one vote.

6NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:38 am

Deank

Deank
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I never accepted a single donation the last campaign. Not that is a huge suprise. But the worst part was even though I barely spent anything, I was required by law to spend close to $500 to get an audit done on my campaign expenses. HELL the audit alone was 20% of my campaign expense.When running for prov they at least cover that audit.

but now. I wont even be able to have even a small amount of pamphlets printed because almost all of my own money will go to paying the freakin auditor.

7NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:17 pm

usedtoliveinstb

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This is a good idea. It will force candidates to have a wide array of financing and not depend on their own deep pockets.

8NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:21 pm

Deank

Deank
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HAH! deep pockets indeed.

9NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:25 pm

Miz point

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Dean, I think the auditor thing is BS.....when one is less than say a grand on expenses why the hell would they need an auditor? I hope the councillors fight this and force some court time.

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

10NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:30 pm

Deank

Deank
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"Dean, I think the auditor thing is BS.....when one is less than say a grand on expenses why the hell would they need an auditor? I"

damn good question.. unfortunately I dont have the answer.

11NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:41 pm

Guest

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usedtoliveinstb wrote:This is a good idea. It will force candidates to have a wide array of financing and not depend on their own deep pockets.

A candidate can only give as much as anyone else....to their own campaigns.

Candidates will just have to be very creative in their bookkeeping eh. Wink

12NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:54 pm

grumpy old man

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The NDP were. Seems even their illegal activities are okay to elections Manitoba. You know, take free labour union labour and "accidentally put it in the wrong column"...

13NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:01 pm

Guest

Anonymous
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Tell the Election Coppers that you bought only 20 lawn signs and you moved them around.

14NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:05 pm

Deank

Deank
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JTF wrote:
usedtoliveinstb wrote:This is a good idea. It will force candidates to have a wide array of financing and not depend on their own deep pockets.

A candidate can only give as much as anyone else....to their own campaigns.

Candidates will just have to be very creative in their bookkeeping eh. NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Icon_wink

Hey JTF.. I heard you have a $50widget for sale for $800.

15NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:09 pm

Guest

Anonymous
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It'll have to be the opposite won't it? Getting $500 worth of signs for $20.00 sorta thing. One will have to keep their expenses down to their fundraising income....but not really *wink wink*.

16NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:13 pm

Deank

Deank
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I was going to purchase the $50 widget for $800 for personal use. I would hope that I was so generous that you would willingly donate to my campaign

17NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:14 pm

Deank

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JTF wrote:It'll have to be the opposite won't it? Getting $500 worth of signs for $20.00 sorta thing. One will have to keep their expenses down to their fundraising income....but not really *wink wink*.

ahh fudged receipts.. yup that is a way of doing it to... never thought of that. But then again I am not NDP.

18NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:27 pm

Guest

Anonymous
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Just issue receipts with generic names...received from Tom Jones...$500.00...received from E. John....$500.00...

19NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:31 pm

Deank

Deank
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heh.. the reciepts have actual specific information required.

AND apparently the city audit review done afterwards will on occasion contact the people who donated.

20NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:34 pm

Guest

Anonymous
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What if they can't though? They can't spend an extraordinary amount of time checking receipts or they'd be 20 years behind in the audits.

21NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:41 pm

Deank

Deank
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well I am assuming since the name and address is required. And since all campaign contributions become information accessible from a access to information request I would assume that IF one person wanted to attempt to discredit the guy who beat him in an election he would take the time to review the expenses and cry foul.

22NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:23 pm

Guest

Anonymous
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You could do that too.

23NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:28 pm

Deank

Deank
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heh... there are more then a couple of people who if they run this time around I am sure that their donation record will be very very closely scrutinized.

24NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:38 am

LivingDead

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Deank, just think. Next the NDP will take away our freedom of speach, followed by making other political party's illegal.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

25NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Empty Re: NDP removes democracy from Manitoba. Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:51 am

LiberatorGuy

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Y'all have a queer political system up here.

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