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1 Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:28 am
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2 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:32 am
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Winpark Dorchester Properties eh....they sure have taken a nose-dive in their business plan. I have no sympathy for them at all.
3 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:12 am
Freeman
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Is there another connection between Winpark Dorchester, other than the guy works there?
4 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:27 am
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He / Dorchester want the government to pay for his facilities after the fact.
He should have been involving the government before he opened up this type of business.
He should have been involving the government before he opened up this type of business.
5 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:18 am
Deank
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JTF wrote:He / Dorchester want the government to pay for his facilities after the fact.
He should have been involving the government before he opened up this type of business.
no no JTF you are forgetting the mantra that seems so popular in Winnipeg
If you build it
they will fund.
6 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:31 am
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7 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:36 am
Deank
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because he thinks he can play on the NDP gimme attitude.
Interesting... invested $1 mill in the properties eh? one has to one if his ROI is valued in terms of money or terms of good feelings.
Interesting... invested $1 mill in the properties eh? one has to one if his ROI is valued in terms of money or terms of good feelings.
8 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:46 am
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9 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:20 pm
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Ok, I get that part, but when you say "he", is "he" doing this as part of Dorchester or as someone trying to set up these places? I guess the root of my question is wheter this is being done just to support properties owned by Dorchester that would otherwise not be generating income, or is it a true effort to provide second stage housing to recovering addicts.
10 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:21 pm
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LennyJessop wrote:Freeman wrote:Is there another connection between Winpark Dorchester, other than the guy works there?
The Rabb guy owns Winpark Dorchester along with his brother, and runs 3 sober living homes. The problem is he claims he cannot afford to pay for 2 additional staff members, yet he opened up 2 new sober homes in 2009. Something isn't right. Going by logic, if you cannot afford to maintain one home (he has been claiming for 18 months), why open up 2 others a few months ago?
the article refers to him as the General Manager, is it true that he is actually an owner of Winpark Dorchester?
11 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:26 pm
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Well technically his brother is the owner, I'm not sure is he co-owns the company or just works for his brother.Freeman wrote:LennyJessop wrote:Freeman wrote:Is there another connection between Winpark Dorchester, other than the guy works there?
The Rabb guy owns Winpark Dorchester along with his brother, and runs 3 sober living homes. The problem is he claims he cannot afford to pay for 2 additional staff members, yet he opened up 2 new sober homes in 2009. Something isn't right. Going by logic, if you cannot afford to maintain one home (he has been claiming for 18 months), why open up 2 others a few months ago?
the article refers to him as the General Manager, is it true that he is actually an owner of Winpark Dorchester?
12 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:33 pm
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13 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:32 pm
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If he was just an employee of this company and doing it on his own, I very much doubt that he would have acquired the million required for this business.
I'm sure if he worked at Safeway, his employment wouldn't be mentioned.
I'm sure if he worked at Safeway, his employment wouldn't be mentioned.
14 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:55 pm
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How does someone invest a million dollars in a for-profit project like this??
A million dollars for what??
Does anyone know anything accurate about this ? Or is this just another "bashing" a person for the sake of bashing a person?
A million dollars for what??
Does anyone know anything accurate about this ? Or is this just another "bashing" a person for the sake of bashing a person?
15 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:59 pm
Deank
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Rosie.. check it out. He still rents the apartments to the people.
So in reality its $1 million for rental units.. with money from gov thrown in for monitoring people.
So in reality its $1 million for rental units.. with money from gov thrown in for monitoring people.
16 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:23 pm
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I notice that it is a not-for-profit residence for $300-$495 per month per room. The houses look pretty nice, and I wonder if this is an off shoot of the rental or real estate company that took old clunker homes and converted them into a very good idea for helping out addicts?
A non - profit agency has some very stringent operating regulations! I don't know what these rules have in regards to drawing salaries, but I would think that financial statements are public knowledge.
A non - profit agency has some very stringent operating regulations! I don't know what these rules have in regards to drawing salaries, but I would think that financial statements are public knowledge.
17 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:29 pm
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The not-for-profit aspect is questionable imo.
If he was, indeed, a non-profit, he would have had to have funding in place before he opened wouldn't he?
Hell, I have a side-by-side rental that I could claim is non-profit.
If he was, indeed, a non-profit, he would have had to have funding in place before he opened wouldn't he?
Hell, I have a side-by-side rental that I could claim is non-profit.
18 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:49 pm
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19 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:19 pm
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20 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:43 pm
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LennyJessop wrote:All I can say about this is I know a lot more about this situation that I am prepared to mention. Let's just say I know this individual, and don't think much of him....
I fear an agenda behind these posts.LennyJessop wrote:3. Hypothetically speaking, suppose the owner of a sober living house routinely goes on clothing spending sprees for Ed Harvey brand name clothing, sometimes dropping $800-900 at one sitting, while claiming to be in financial peril, what would you make of it?
What exactly is your concern? Is something illegal going on? Is something immoral going on?
Maybe I'm thick. What am I missing?
21 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:45 pm
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I doubt that all the houses together from Portage to Westminister are not worth that much.
Seems to me that this guy is blowing smoke outta his ass and the 'reporter' is inhaling heavily.
edit added not
Seems to me that this guy is blowing smoke outta his ass and the 'reporter' is inhaling heavily.
edit added not
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22 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:54 pm
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JTF wrote:I doubt that all the houses together from Portage to Westminister are worth that much.
Seems to me that this guy is blowing smoke outta his ass and the 'reporter' is inhaling heavily.
this is just one house....
23 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:55 pm
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grumpy old man wrote:I fear an agenda behind these posts.
What exactly is your concern? Is something illegal going on? Is something immoral going on?
Maybe I'm thick. What am I missing?
Seems pretty straightforward to me. Lenny knows of this guy and reads a story in the paper about him
The story seems to be a crock based on his experience.
Whattsa problem?
When I read the story without knowing the guy, I felt there was something funny going on, as I've posted.
24 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:01 pm
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rosencrentz wrote:I notice that it is a not-for-profit residence for $300-$495 per month per room. The houses look pretty nice, and I wonder if this is an off shoot of the rental or real estate company that took old clunker homes and converted them into a very good idea for helping out addicts?
A non - profit agency has some very stringent operating regulations! I don't know what these rules have in regards to drawing salaries, but I would think that financial statements are public knowledge.
That was the late Rev. Harry Lehotsky of New Life Ministries. I met him a couple of times in 2004, a really nice guy originally from New York, who turned his life around, and chose to stay in the West End and help the people.
The non-profit company you were thinking of woould be Lazarus Housing. They gutted crack houses and apartments, fixed them up, and sold them to low income residents (single mothers, handicapped people, etc.). He suddenly passed away in 2006, but I believe he was awarded the Order of Canada shortly before his death.
25 Re: Addiction Centre Cuts Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:53 pm
Freeman
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Is this the landlord that LJ had trouble with after the fire?
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