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Ottawa ships guaranteed way of dealing with H1N1 to northern reserves.

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http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Ottawa-ships-body-bags-to-northern-Manitoba-reserves-59489677.html

"The Island Lakes communities of St. Theresa Point, Wasagamack and Garden Hill received earlier this week shipments of 30 body bags, which are used to contain the dead."

the chiefs are apparently not happy with this.

grumpy old man

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Not enough bags?

Did not come with a $1000 bill?

No opportunity to hold a press conference?

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Considering that the moment they start getting sick they are shipped to Winnipeg, seems like a pretty stupid thing to do.....

But yeah I would think that EVERY town/city/ whatever should have a good number on stock in the event of a disaster. Its never a good thing when you just leave the bodies laying around. It helps to spread disease and it demoralizes the people.

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Deank wrote:http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Ottawa-ships-body-bags-to-northern-Manitoba-reserves-59489677.html

"The Island Lakes communities of St. Theresa Point, Wasagamack and Garden Hill received earlier this week shipments of 30 body bags, which are used to contain the dead."

the chiefs are apparently not happy with this.

Sorry, but this article made me chuckle. Someone at Health Canada thought that Body Bags might be needed, apparently everyone else's Political Correctness trumps all.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

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I seem to recall during..umm Katrina? yeah I think Katrina how that particular government was scrambling to find body bags everywhere.

Body bags are a normal part of disaster prep now. As sick as that sounds its a reality. The bodybags probably just arrived earlier then other stuff so were sent on. Yeah kind of a little stupid this lack of communication but at least supplies are being delivered.

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What the frick were the people thinking that made this public? It makes sense that medical facilities have these on hand for any eventuality, but who would have made this info public? Obviously these weren't shipped to select households or targetted individuals, or to the community centre or church, but to some sort of health facility, presumably staffed by qualified medical personnel, so why does this become a matter of public knowledge? Do they announce receipt of rectal thermometers, or Preparation H, so why tell the world that they got a supply of body bags?

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They did it for one reason and one reason alone. To make a stink and embarrass someone.

That said who was the twit that made the decision to release the body bags BEFORE medicine and related health care supplies were shipped? Surely someone understood the optics.



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according to someone on freep... the body bags were PART of the shipment of other flu stuff like hand sanitizer and masks and such.

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The interview I saw with the chief on CTN news implied that no medicine had been received.

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no MEDICINE

the freep article has been update yet again

"
Garden Hill Chief David Harper said the nursing station in Wasagamack got 30 body bags and God’s Lake received 20 of them, along with boxes of hand sanitizer wipes and masks. Body bags were also included in shipments to Garden Hill and St. Theresa Point, but Harper said the number was unknown. "

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so basically a big shipment of everything they might need.. BUT the medicine, you know since the medicine is not currently available.

Now wouldn't that suck just a little bit if say tommorow they were hit with another round and since the medicine is not ready yet we never shipped them anything? Oh right, we would be to blame then too

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anyone notice the other article about swine flu today?
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/life/tiny-h1n1-victim-recovers-59442612.html

little WHITE (thats important just wait) girl had some previous lung problems to being with such that she needed to carry oxygen at all times.. caught swine flu, ended up on respirator for a long time...came out of coma, got off respirator and now NO LONGER NEED TO CARRY OXYGEN... thats right folks... SWINE FLU saves lives.

anyway the white part..

remember how earlier this year two of the deaths were natives and they were blaming the hospitals for turning them away from ER up to three times before anything would be done to help them and they were saying it was racism
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After being turned away from the emergency ward three times in the late spring, Rhea Myers ended up in the pediatric intensive care unit at the Health Sciences Centre in June.
"

see its not racism you damn asshats... its doctors who simply were not prepared to handle the problem

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Today's news suggested that the ERs were turning away record numbers. Just proves that the WRHA is an equal opportunity health care provider.

Seriously though. Aboriginals are disproportionately high abusers users of ERs as primary health care providers. Seems to reason then that they'd be turned-away disproportionately more frequently.

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grumpy old man wrote:They did it for one reason and one reason alone. To make a stink and embarrass someone.

That said who was the twit that made the decision to release the body bags BEFORE medicine and related health care supplies were shipped? Surely someone understood the optics.

What DeanK said. These were not shippped alone, but with the "kits" that the Chiefs have been crying about. As far as the vaccine, I can already hear the press conference if even one person dies from the flu after receiving the vaccine. Its a no win. These assholes will complain about everything and anything, it grows so tiring.

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Yup... total no win,,if there is even one person who gets really sick from the vaccine. The government will be accused of using them as lab rats.

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holf ffuck nuts.,.. the complaint is even more useless then before.,. check out this quote from the sun

http://www.winnipegsun.com/news/manitoba/2009/09/16/10941111.html
"Expecting supplies for the H1N1 influenza outbreak, officials at nursing stations in Wasagamack, St. Theresa Point, and Garden Hill First Nations say they received an increased amount of body bags in their shipments. "
so in other words... they typically get body bags with each shipment. THIS TIME THEY JUST GOT A FEW MORE

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It was mentioned in the CBC report that one of the reasons why they were pissed off was because of the perception that to have body bags invites death.....why all of a sudden now do they carp about something that has been shipped consistently over the years? I suppose since the big Health Conference is on at the Fort Garry may have something to do with it.

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

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They are just like little children aren't they? Demanding attention at every turn...

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Treat people like children and they will behave like children.

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Miz point wrote:It was mentioned in the CBC report that one of the reasons why they were pissed off was because of the perception that to have body bags invites death.....why all of a sudden now do they carp about something that has been shipped consistently over the years? I suppose since the big Health Conference is on at the Fort Garry may have something to do with it.

wait a minute I thought for most of them the "traditional" method was to burn the bodies on a pile of wood, or failing that leave the body in the woods for nature to take back?

doesnt this mean we should lay waste to all the trees where they live so as not to invite death?

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I'm still waiting for the second shoe...the money shoe...to drop..as in "we demand compensation for our distress."

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JTF wrote:I'm still waiting for the second shoe...the money shoe...to drop..as in "we demand compensation for our distress."

Oh, I guarantee that parts coming,....just wait for it.

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there ya go...

http://www.winnipegsun.com/news/winnipeg/2009/09/18/10976791.html

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But Manitoba’s aboriginal leaders say Aglukkaq should apologize and those responsible for the shipment be fired.
"

Question to all Manitoba Chiefs..

WHO THE FUCKK TOLD ALL THE RESIDENTS ABOUT THE BODY BAGS????

Maybe that person needs to apologize and be fired...

Miz point

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This has to be one of the lamest headline grabbers yet as perpetrated by MKO and the Manitoba Assembly of Chiefs. As I keep saying there are far more important issues to present to the press like overcrowded and substandard housing, gang and drug problems, a low graduation from High School rate, teenaged pregnancy, FASD......the list is endless......WAKE UP CHIEFS.....do the right thing - bitching is not getting you anywhere but definitive action just might???

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The irony of it all is. If the bags were not shipped and lots of people do die, they will cry foul because there were not enough bags at the local RCMP. They will b1tch and complain no matter what is done.

Just wait till the first report of some kid's death from drinking hand sanitizer hits the news.

Imagine the spin. "the goverment sent us this stuff trying to kill our people" and "The government is trying to ethnically cleanse canada of first nations" (not real quotes)

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