Another radar decision

Yesterday a Judge in Traffic Court ruled that the enlarged photos of the ones taken by cameras were inadmissable as evidence (they're used to get the plate numbers) and dismissed a speeding ticket.

The Red Light Cameras take two photos of the vehicle...neither of which is very clear and neither of which show the plate clear enough to make out a number. The police enlarge one photo to be able to determine a number.

The law states clearly what type of photo is admissable. It has to have a black box at the top with details of the infraction. The enlargement doesn't have this and is inadmissable.

The Judge said that the camera photos could not have been used to determine the number, and surmized that the enlargement must have been used, which is inadmissable, ergo, there can be no determination of the plate number.

The Crown said it will be appealing the decision.

Remember folks...you heard it here first.

holy fark!

Sweet scoop JTF! Had I known you were fighting your ticket yesterday, I could have joined ya for lunch! ;-)

Seems to me that the crown will have to be able to show a legal connection between the camera photo and the enlargement and be able to say it is within the present legislation. I don't think they can personally.

The legislation has to be ammended imo. But, we'll see.

I wonder what would happen if I put a black sticker near my licence plate on which was written "no infraction"..... hmmmmmm

FlyingRat wrote:Sweet scoop JTF! Had I known you were fighting your ticket yesterday, I could have joined ya for lunch! ;-)

I was there at 2:00.

As a result of the decision, I worked the crown at the break and got a deal ...I agreed to pay $100.

FlyingRat wrote:I wonder what would happen if I put a black sticker near my licence plate on which was written "no infraction"..... hmmmmmm

...or....Enlarge This!

Before I can react to the $100 deal, what was the original fine?

$278. 80 in a 60 on Pembina at Grant. (tsk tsk tsk on the Muse)

good thing she was going fast enough to get away from the camera so the picture was not readable

There isn't one photo taken by those cameras that is clear enough to make out a province or state, nevermind a number.
This appears to be a big glitch in the system imo.

Good catch jtf. I'll keep that in reserve for the next time.

merci.

Pembina should be a 70 zone IMO.

JTF wrote:

FlyingRat wrote:Sweet scoop JTF! Had I known you were fighting your ticket yesterday, I could have joined ya for lunch! ;-)

I was there at 2:00.

As a result of the decision, I worked the crown at the break and got a deal ...I agreed to pay $100.

Geesh...I really made out then.

Got a camera light ticket on Burrows doing 64 in a 50...my plea that there are no limit signs on Burrows to say "50" and that both streets entering it (McPhillips & Keewatin) are both 60, and that Inkster (only a block away) is also 60 (most of the way)...that who's to know Burrows isn't the same.

Got a $76 ticket, instead of the $214 I was supposed to get.

Absolutely. Grant also should be higher than 50 west of Stafford. We had a similar discussion on speed limits on another thread. This came up.

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grumpy old man wrote:Absolutely. Grant also should be higher than 50 west of Stafford. We had a similar discussion on speed limits on another thread. This came up.

I agree with you West of Stafford and East of Cambridge. Not for the part between Kenaston and Cambridge. Too many intersections.

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like it enough to link to it?

FlyingRat wrote:

grumpy old man wrote:Absolutely. Grant also should be higher than 50 west of Stafford. We had a similar discussion on speed limits on another thread. This came up.

I agree with you West of Stafford and East of Cambridge. Not for the part between Kenaston and Cambridge. Too many intersections.

Nah. That is a four lane road with a wide median. Hell, Pembina has not only as many intersections but a mazillion curb cuts for business driveways...

Pembina also has more than 4 lanes...

I just added a reply......or at least I thought I had.......are the comments moderated and accepted or instant? Or because I'm new and added a link was it punted?

we self-moderate...so it should be automatic.

your link should not have gotten rejected....try posting it again if you can...let us know if you have problems.