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this math cant be right...

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1this math cant be right... Empty this math cant be right... Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:30 pm

Deank

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http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Ottawa-says-it-will-spend-_5-billion-to-upgrade-and-buy-new-combat-vehicles.html


1 Billion will be spent to upgrade the existing 550 LAV 3s

$1,000,000,000/550= $1818181.81 to upgrade each vehicle???!?!?!?!?!?!?

something is missing from the story right?

1.8 Million to UPGRADE a vehicle???

2this math cant be right... Empty Re: this math cant be right... Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:43 pm

umcrouc0

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Could be right. Military vehicles aren't cheap.

3this math cant be right... Empty Re: this math cant be right... Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:45 pm

Deank

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can you imagine how much WWII would have cost if crazy figures like these were used?

4this math cant be right... Empty Re: this math cant be right... Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:48 pm

AGEsAces

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Deank wrote:can you imagine how much WWII would have cost if crazy figures like these were used?

in WWII they were more dependent on manpower than vehicles.

Amour-piercing rounds weren't so prevalent, neither were missiles.

Probably the reason WWII lost tens of thousands of soldiers...whereas today it's less than 1k.

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5this math cant be right... Empty Re: this math cant be right... Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:49 pm

Deank

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true


but still 1.8 million to UPGRADE??? shouldn;t that be the cost of one of these things? Dont get me wrong I want the best for our soldiers.. but is spending money without thinking the best?

6this math cant be right... Empty Re: this math cant be right... Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:52 pm

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How much for Ralph Brown CC?
Unemployed?
On social assisstance?
Starving Africans?
3 Billion will feed all the hungry kids in the world for 1 year!
I hate Harper!
I voted for Harper- he was better than the Liberals!
Who is left? the green lady bimbo?

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7this math cant be right... Empty Re: this math cant be right... Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:59 pm

AGEsAces

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I'm assuming what they are looking at is similar to a Humvee
Humvee Info
Type: Large SUV
Place of origin: this math cant be right... 22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg United States
Service history: 1984 – present
In service: 1984 – present
Production history
Manufacturer: AM General
Unit cost: $65,000 (unarmored)-$140,000 (armored)
Produced Specifications
Weight: 5,200 lb (2,340kg)—5,900 lb (2,680 kg) curb weight
Length: 15 ft (4.6 m)
Width: 7.08 ft (2.1 m)
Height: 6 ft (1.8 m), reducible to 4.5 ft (1.4 m)
Engine: 8 Cyl. Diesel 6.2 L (~378 cu in) or 6.5 L (~397 cu in)
Suspension: Independent
Fuel capacity: 25 U.S. gal (95 L)
Speed: 90 mph(144 km/h)(unarmored)-65 mph (105 km/h)(armored) maximum

But that's nothing compared to the cost for planes Smile.

Predicted and actual budgets for U.S. warplanes
PlaneOriginal budget# of planesCost/ planeFinal budgetTotal planes builtCost/ planeCost in 2002 dollars
F-15$7.4 billion729$10 million$29.9 billion1074$27.9 million (in 1990 dollars)$37.1 million
F-16$6.0 billion650$9.3 million$38.4 billion2201$17.5 million (in 1994 dollars)$20.59 million
F-18$46.8 billion548$85.4 million$48.8 billion548
$89.1 million
F-22$99.1 billion648$153 million$69.7 billion341
$204.5 million
F-35$226.5 billion2,866$79 million (current estimate)TBDTBDTBDTBD

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8this math cant be right... Empty Re: this math cant be right... Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:02 pm

Deank

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so the US is paying 20 million for an entire plane.. and we are paying 1.8 million to upgrade a truck?

9this math cant be right... Empty Re: this math cant be right... Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:10 pm

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10this math cant be right... Empty Re: this math cant be right... Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:17 pm

AGEsAces

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ahh...now THAT could be worth more than $1M each

what i heard on the radio was that it's a transport...didn't know it was a sealed transport/light tank.

http://www.photage.ca

11this math cant be right... Empty Re: this math cant be right... Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:22 pm

umcrouc0

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That looks like an expensive vehicle to upgrade.

12this math cant be right... Empty Re: this math cant be right... Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:34 pm

Deank

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yeah so 1.8 mill seems pretty bang on then eh?

good.

13this math cant be right... Empty Re: this math cant be right... Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:36 pm

umcrouc0

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Could be. Not unreasonable. For vehicles that cost an unreasonable amount of money to start with.

14this math cant be right... Empty Re: this math cant be right... Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:28 pm

Freeman

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Keep in mind that these contracts include replacement parts for several years, training personnel in maintenance, etc. Some of the vriants get pretty technical, like the recce version which has some pretty high tech surveillance equipment.

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