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1arrested and charged.. why not named? Empty arrested and charged.. why not named? Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:26 pm

Deank

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http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Winnipeg-police-officer-charged-with-assault-48156882.html

Why the special treatment of not naming him?

This is getting stupid. First they seemingly overreact and throw the book at two officers for taking down a criminal and lying about the circumstances. Now they charge a guy with assualt but dont name him?

Come on guys.. get with the program.. All we want as citizens is the same reaction to police being charged as for non police being charged.

Arrest them, charge them with the proper crimes, let everyone know who was arrested and for what. The investigation should not be taking months and months before charges are laid either. Common decency and an even application of the law is all that is required.

rosencrentz

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The police officer is obviously not guilty!

http://www.elansofas.com

JT Estoban

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....especially since everyone is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty....

oops.

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Less there is a witch hunt then you are guilty first.

grumpy old man

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I'm willing to bet there is video of this attack.

6arrested and charged.. why not named? Empty Re: arrested and charged.. why not named? Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:11 pm

Deank

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Pavolo wrote:Less there is a witch hunt then you are guilty first.

what witch hunt? and who said anything about the dude being guilty?

Here is the problem

The last media release on assault arrest before the officers
"
On June 13, 2009, information was released regarding the arrest of a male in connection with a number of assaults that occurred in the 1100 block of Arlington Street. The suspect has been identified as 34 year old William Gary PANGMAN of Winnipeg. He was charged with Aggravated Assault, Assault with a Weapon X 2, Assault Cause Bodily Harm, Assault, Possession of a Weapon for a Dangerous Purpose and Mischief Under $5,000.00. PANGMAN was detained at the Winnipeg Remand Centre."


The officers assualt arrest media release.
"
On June 15, 2009 at approximately 3:00 p.m., a three year member of the Winnipeg Police Service was arrested in relation to an alleged assault which occurred on November 22, 2008. The incident is alleged to have been committed while the officer was on duty.
The officer is facing charges of Aggravated Assault and was released on a Promise to Appear with conditions. He is currently on administrative leave pending an internal hearing to determine his employment status.
"

7arrested and charged.. why not named? Empty Re: arrested and charged.. why not named? Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:14 pm

Deank

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Lets note one thing I never bolded the above. It was bolded in the media release.

Lets see here
Arresstee's name Check
Where the crime was committed Check
Arresstee detained Check

Now lets move to the cops arrest
name.. nope
Where crime was located... nope
Officer detained.. nope

oo even better.. the officer's crime of alleged to ahve happened.. yet they dont mention that the crimes allegedly happened in the first case do they?

8arrested and charged.. why not named? Empty Re: arrested and charged.. why not named? Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:18 pm

Deank

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I dont want to crucify cops I want them to be held to the same standard as us regular people. Or at a minimum legitimate reasons for details being left out of the information.

9arrested and charged.. why not named? Empty Re: arrested and charged.. why not named? Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:43 am

Deank

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http://www.winnipegsun.com/news/winnipeg/2009/06/17/9823651-sun.html

The fact eight Winnipeg police officers have been charged this year hasn't slipped past the Winnipeg Police Association.
"I really hope that whoever's (laying the charges) is not doing it from a sense of hyper-vigilance in order to try to satisfy a public perception that police officers get off lightly," said Mike Sutherland, president of the police union.

Well Mr Mike Sutherland. I for one would rather wish that people didn;t have the perception that police officers got off lightly. You know a good way to end that perception? Stop ensuring they get off lightly.

10arrested and charged.. why not named? Empty Re: arrested and charged.. why not named? Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:00 pm

JT Estoban

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Deank wrote:Well Mr Mike Sutherland. I for one would rather wish that people didn;t have the perception that police officers got off lightly. You know a good way to end that perception? Stop ensuring they get off lightly.


Well said!

Good Post!

11arrested and charged.. why not named? Empty Re: arrested and charged.. why not named? Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:06 pm

Deank

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there we go.. named the dude...
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Three-year-veteran-officer-faces-assault-charge-48255917.html

His name is just well.. more then a little unbelievable.

12arrested and charged.. why not named? Empty Re: arrested and charged.. why not named? Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:55 am

Deank

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see, now this is what I mean by they need to apply it equally. We dont release information about the relatives of most people so how the hell is it any of our business that he is the nephew of the chief of police?

http://www.winnipegsun.com/news/winnipeg/2009/06/18/9835926-sun.html

Sure its great that the chief didnt try to use family connections to make this go away. But that is pretty much a given that he would not have in my opinion. Yeah this would be news if the chief DID use his position to make this go away. NOT news and NONE of our business that he did not.

13arrested and charged.. why not named? Empty Re: arrested and charged.. why not named? Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:54 pm

grumpy old man

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It is news Deank. Were they to have NOT reported that connection it might have been looked at poorly as well. In this case damned if you do damned if you don't.

14arrested and charged.. why not named? Empty Re: arrested and charged.. why not named? Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:59 pm

Deank

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I guess

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