human rights report raps Canada.

Are public museum's expected to make money? How many do in Canada? It's just a rhetorical question...

I have zero desire to visit the Manitoba Children's Museum or the Winnipeg Art Gallery. If I wanted to know about the Marilyn Monroe exhibit or Tigers and Dragons I too could go to the internet and have a look-see.

I don't know how much the taxpayer subsidized these museums during construction and for annual operating costs. But they add to the fabric of the city and appeal to some. I would not begrudge the costs for these either. To each his own on such things I guess.

I don't think I will ever visit, and for the same reason that i never went to see the movie about the guy who saved bunches of Jews during World War II- too painful!
A huge waste of money building that Museum in Winnipeg, but I am glad they are wasting the money in Winnipeg! That is a big plus for us, and no one can deny that!
Asker got a lot of politicians to agree to it, probably because he said if you do not support this, I will get all the Jewish people after you!
There is a very strong support system to get behind different projects. That is why the jewish community can raise a lot of money in a short period of time!
That is good for us! And one of the reasons for anti-semitism!
My wife is anti-semitic, I believe!

grumpy old man wrote:I don't know how much the taxpayer subsidized these museums during construction and for annual operating costs. But they add to the fabric of the city and appeal to some. I would not begrudge the costs for these either.

Sure, they add to the fabric of the city, etc., but not at any cost, eh?

Goth_chic wrote:Even if this museum is built I have zero desire to ever see the inside. If I want to know about human rights abuses I can watch the news or rent a movie. I really can't see how this museum will ever make money....

I agree with Gothic_chic!

Quelle surprise.

I have never heard of a museum that makes money .

some museums make tons of money... most of those in Canada are not in that category.

Can you name a couple?

For the sake of argument shall we limit the debate to Canadian museums? But I'd be interested in knowing what museum makes ton's of money even if not in Canada.

ugg.. fine Alex... hehehe... I have it at work though (I I think...or else I will have to do all the research again)
tommorow is busy at work but I should be able to give some numbers

oo right the one of the top of my head is graceland

Can Disneyland be classified as a Museum?

Only if the Askers are involved.

JTF wrote:Only if the Askers are involved.

Two of my Hutterite ancestors were burned at the stake by Turks for their beliefs, true martyrs they were. This history is well documented in the Hutterite chronicles, along with so many other incidents they were forced to suffer through, being chased from country to country, stoned,whipped and beaten all in the name of religion. And yet this will receive nary a mention from CHRM, its a one track museum from what I can tell so far......if they wanted to mention all the human rights atrocities in the world they would need a building the size of Winnipeg, it just doesn't sit right with me to mention a few and leave out the rest. Why do it at all then?

eastsider wrote:And yet this will receive nary a mention from CHRM, its a one track museum from what I can tell so far......if they wanted to mention all the human rights atrocities in the world they would need a building the size of Winnipeg, it just doesn't sit right with me to mention a few and leave out the rest. Why do it at all then?

Wha?

How do you know this? Where does this come from? Who believes that every possible human rights violation will be displayed at once? Come on eastsider, surely you don't believe the crap some peeps are spewing do you?

I fully expect and hope the museum to undertake the type of research necessary to become the world's preeminent human rights museum. They will travel Canada to speak with people like you eastsider who have a story to tell. They would then develop a plan to create the types of displays that would tell a fair and balanced story.

I don't know how large their "collection" will be but I would expect it will be rotated.

The problem is some people believe this is now and forever will be a Holocaust museum. While that may have been Izzy Aspers original plan that is not what it has evolved into.

eastsider wrote:Two of my Hutterite ancestors were burned at the stake by Turks for their beliefs, true martyrs they were. This history is well documented in the Hutterite chronicles, along with so many other incidents they were forced to suffer through, being chased from country to country, stoned,whipped and beaten all in the name of religion. And yet this will receive nary a mention from CHRM, its a one track museum from what I can tell so far......if they wanted to mention all the human rights atrocities in the world they would need a building the size of Winnipeg, it just doesn't sit right with me to mention a few and leave out the rest. Why do it at all then?

Website, website, website. If the point is to reach as many people as possible, then why spend hundreds of millions to create a museum with limited floor space that will draw people in the thousands, when you can have website with unlimted space that can reach hundreds of millions of people, for a tiny, tiny fraction of the cost? All notable human rights tragedies can be included, leaving no one disappointed.

Great idea. Let's close all museums and replace them with websites. Yet another brilliant idea from obsessiveman.

While we're at it let's close all concert halls and theaters and opera houses and ballet companies and hockey arenas. Let's replace them all with web sites.

Hey. Let's close all schools too. We'll replace them with web sites.

Obsessiveman for Prime Minister!

Grumpy, I hope you're right.......just a few nagging doubts I have.

"And yet this will receive nary a mention from CHRM, its a one track museum from what I can tell so far......"

Well duh,,, what was the hutterites donation amount?

lets see Ukes.. we paid up... we will have a mention
natives... yup
Jews.. yup
Women's groups yup
unions.. yup

as long as your dues are paid you too will have a section.

grumpy old man wrote:Great idea. Let's close all museums and replace them with websites. Yet another brilliant idea from obsessiveman.

While we're at it let's close all concert halls and theaters and opera houses and ballet companies and hockey arenas. Let's replace them all with web sites.

Hey. Let's close all schools too. We'll replace them with web sites.

Obsessiveman for Prime Minister!

Silly, some buildings are required. Concert halls have concerts. Dinosaur museums have bones in them. When all you want to do is provide information, then why do you need a building? Nice try, though. Try harder next time.

The House of Sillines in Ottawa has bones in it and we still pay to keep it going .

Pavolo wrote:The House of Sillines in Ottawa has bones in it and we still pay to keep it going .

So clever. What a country!

Yes but I would not want to be any where else .