the NAZI couple and a court case

"No sir, that's Hinduism. Sacred cows are mentioned several times in the Vedas, but it's been ages, Ages, since I last read them"

LOL nice

what the hell does this have to do with anything?

" who drank up to 10 beers a day. "

"The case worker testified the girl said her father drank a lot — sometimes on his own.""

AND?? AND?????

http://www.winnipegsun.com/news/winnipeg/2009/05/28/9601866.html

It might be considered excessive in some quarters. Then there are those that do not consider 10 beer a day excessive.

10, 100, 1000 beers a day are all legal.. whats it matter?
Do they say he was drunk and unable to take care of the kids and was home as the only caregiver at the time? NO. So the information is completely irrelevant and put forward without context.

Christ, whats next complaining because he made mommy scream Oh GOD everynight?

b1tch about the dude for being racist, dont b1tch about him for being a human.

It seems in context to moi. They are talking about his parenting ability. Maybe someone that drinks 10 beer nightly might not be a good parent???

Me thinks thou protesteth too much. Heh heh. This is not about you Deank. It's about Nazi propagating incompetent parents.

Whats next, your pets get taken away because you went to bed drunk one night with no sober adult there to care for them?

The alcohol consumption on this dudes part is not a part of the discussion unless they add in something like. Daddy is very mean when he drinks or daddy was so drunk when cooking one night he started a fire, or daddy made me and sister wander outside in -30 weather and die in a snowbank. Until that point they might as well include that daddy breathes air.

I'm with Dean on this point.

Drinking 10 beers a day doesn't not make someone a bad parent. Drinking 100 beers a day doesn't either.
It makes them stupid, and an alcoholic...but has nothing to do with the parenting skills.

And I'm not 100% sure I agree with the government on this one.
Let's say the roles were reversed. Let's say I was trying to teach my kid tolerance, understanding, and universal love for all, but the government was telling me I had to hate xxx race/sex/etc. due to conflict they may have. But since I'm teaching my kids one way, and it's against what the government says...they come in and try to take my kids away.

Now...taking OUT of the context the drinking, drugs, neglect, etc...just focus on the teaching component.

Argue for these Nazis now...they are teaching their kids what THEY believe...no different than you or I...despite what we may think...it's their choice to do so.

Is it irresponsible? perhaps.
Is it dangerous? perhaps.

But until either of the parents, or the children actually ACT upon those teachings (ie. kill someone, attack someone, etc.) then there's no actual crime being committed...whether WE agree with them or not.

Really? Really?? Really???

I don't cotton to contrasts that include extremism's. What say we agree to disagree on this one as well... I don't have the energy for this today.

AGEsAces wrote:I'm with Dean on this point.

Drinking 10 beers a day doesn't not make someone a bad parent. Drinking 100 beers a day doesn't either.
It makes them stupid, and an alcoholic...but has nothing to do with the parenting skills.

And I'm not 100% sure I agree with the government on this one.
Let's say the roles were reversed. Let's say I was trying to teach my kid tolerance, understanding, and universal love for all, but the government was telling me I had to hate xxx race/sex/etc. due to conflict they may have. But since I'm teaching my kids one way, and it's against what the government says...they come in and try to take my kids away.

Now...taking OUT of the context the drinking, drugs, neglect, etc...just focus on the teaching component.

Argue for these Nazis now...they are teaching their kids what THEY believe...no different than you or I...despite what we may think...it's their choice to do so.

Is it irresponsible? perhaps.
Is it dangerous? perhaps.

But until either of the parents, or the children actually ACT upon those teachings (ie. kill someone, attack someone, etc.) then there's no actual crime being committed...whether WE agree with them or not.

Well said!

Yes well said it is the parents right to teach what they want , as long as it is not hurting someone else . After all who says that the majority believe is the right one .

WINNIPEG police were warned in 2005 that a man now involved in a
high-profile child custody case was part of an online movement calling
for the genocide of aboriginal and Jewish communities in Canada, the Free Press has learned.

It's true this has not been proven in a court of law. And if true is completely irrelevant in judging his fitness as a parent.

The site included specific reference to the man now fighting to regain
custody of his stepdaughter and son from Child and Family Services.

Members were referred to as "Aryan Foot Soldiers" and there was also an
online forum in which visitors wrote "hate-filled tirades against
aboriginals, describing them as child-raping (expletives)," Warman
noted.

There was also a call for violence against natives, saying "we should kill them all."

Ahhh. Nothing really wrong with that. Boys will be boys after all.

I am not agreeing with these parents but if a Muslim was bringing up their children to hate the non-muslims and to be an extremist would CFS react the same way? If natives are bringing up their children to hate the white man is CFS doing anything? I don't agree with how these parents are raising said children but you have to ask if they weren't white would this be happening? before any one freaks out I am not condoning this behaviour...

"I have a rebuttal for everything that's been said. I won't allow them to win by lying," the mother said. She has written a lengthy affidavit outlining her version of events. She admits drawing a swastika on her daughter in an attempt to "piss off" the school based on ongoing concerns she had with the curriculum.

Wait. It gets better. This is a 7 year old child? This is a talented and ambitious young lady. Look what she did to herself in her efforts to really really express herself. I think her parents are to be commended for raising such an incredibly expressive child.

But she claims the girl is responsible for all the other markings on her body, which covered much of the girl's arms and legs and included references to Adolf Hitler and the slogan "we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

I really don't know Goth how the CFS would react. I also don't know how speculating on it is relevant either.

I have heard about how some natives are telling their children that whitey is no good. And to be mistrustful (word?) of the police.

We've also heard how the dolt sitting in Gitmo was raised in Canada yet showed up in Afghanistan throwing grenades as a terrorist.

I sure hope the CFS would at least look into it. Whether it warrants this level of action is pure speculation though...

Well first off, noone should be allowed to teach their children hate. But My only arguement right now is unless they have some sort of other information, they can frick off on his alcohol issues. none of their damn business.

should all kids who are taught to hate be taken away from parents? yup.. I expect that would be a conservative 10% of the entire population of Manitoba.

yup 10%.. maybe even about 1 Millionish peeps across Canada.