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Should she go to Jail

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1Should she go to Jail Empty Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:06 am

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http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/newborns-death-tragic-but-not-criminal-defence-43527442.html

I say yes this is the best case of should not have children Ive seen in years .

2Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:10 am

Deank

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She totally should go to jail.. you know I can see a frustrated parent throwing a kid into a bassinet.... but there is no god damn way those injuries were caused how she says they were caused... no god damn way at all.

3Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:12 am

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I agree this is sad but sadder is the defense attorny thinking the public should buy this load .

4Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:39 am

Deank

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oh my freakin god.... Apple had actually released a shake the baby to death application on Monday before pulling it due to public protest.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/apple-suffers-shaken-baby-syndrome-43527607.html

5Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:34 am

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I don't think she should go to jail. What would that accomplish? The punishment of living with what she's done is way worse than being locked up. She is not a danger to the public. I doubt she will harm her other children. Make her attend counseling and monitor her with her children for a while.

6Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:38 am

Deank

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Because jail is not just about rehabilitation. Its also about punishment. She should not be allowed to be near anyone under 18 ever again in her life.

7Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:51 am

FlyingRat

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So you don't agree that living with what she's done is a greater punishment than jail?

8Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:51 am

Deank

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Nope. She dont care, she is just a very good actor in my opinion. If she really cared she would have killed herself by now.

9Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:59 am

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It's not much different than that drunk bozo letting his kids freeze to death last year. There was a notion that he would have to live with the knowledge that but for his drunken actions his kids would be alive. Seems he's been drinking since. And he has another child.

Nope. Jail is called for. A life was lost. And it was no accident.

10Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:28 pm

FlyingRat

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Has intent been demonstrated?

11Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:33 pm

Deank

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torture the b1tch until she tells the real truth about what she did. as there is NO GOD DAMN WAY that baby suffered those injuries from what she said.

get the truth and you will have your intent.

12Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:57 pm

Deank

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interesting..
The Winnipeg Free Press is not accepting comments on this story.





one has to wonder if there was a bunch of really bad comments that forced them to close the comments section

13Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:27 pm

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likely

14Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:32 pm

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As the song says I wouldn't want to be like you .

15Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:43 pm

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16Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:24 pm

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That defense attorney offered up pretty lame statements....i believe most of you who read the story do not need me to quote....christ, what an arse.

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

17Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:09 pm

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It remains to see what the courts do.

18Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:48 pm

Freeman

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Sad story. The Criminal Code provides for mitigation of sentencing when post partum depression is a factor.

I am in no way defending what she did, but the effects of post partum depression, sleep deprivation and the massive stress of dealing with 3 newborns is incredible. Been there, done that, but survived, as did my kids. They have hair, I don't.

19Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:19 am

Deank

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did you have 57 hours of respite per week?

20Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:32 am

Freeman

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Actually, we had about 80 hours a week for a while. We had overnight help as the boys, being premature, were feeding about every 3 to 4 hours, so there wasn't much time for sleep. (They still seem to be on that schedule, but at least they can feed themselves, most of the time)

Again, I'm not defending, its just that I can appreciate the situation.

21Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:35 am

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Whatever, it still takes a very special person to abuse a newborn baby....nevermind the mother doing it.

Here's a person that should be kept away from children and pets imo.

22Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:39 am

Deank

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really 80 hours per week?

man we had no help at all with the twins ( my wife is freakin awesome)

23Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:49 am

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My wife was recovering from surgery.

This woman also had an older child so the situation is similar to ours. Again, no defence for outright abusive behaviour, but an understanding of how easy it is to make a mistake.

24Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:51 am

Deank

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yes exactly a mistake of throwing the kid in the bassinet.. no doubt... but this childs injuries were not caused by throwing the kid in the bassinet as she claims.. no freakin way.

25Should she go to Jail Empty Re: Should she go to Jail Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:10 am

Freeman

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Thats what the jury will have to determine in their sentencing. While a conviction of Manslaughter can be found even if there was no intent, the sentence will certainly indicate how they interpreted the facts.

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