Are Canadians too accommodating to others religious and cultural beliefs?

Is it possible that Canada is trying too hard to be all things to all people? Can we accommodate others' religious and cultural needs without duplicating and triplicating processes and procedures ad nauseum?

Should newcomers to Canada integrate or should they expect their religious and cultural beliefs to be met upon landing on our shores?

Have we gone too far and are we now beginning to pay for it?

by Stuart Laidlaw Toronto Star
Whether it's kirpans in a Montreal schoolyard, turbans on a Milton
job site, polygamists in a B.C. town or lesbians in a Winnipeg doctor's
waiting room, opposing cultural and religious rights are giving a rough
ride to Canada's cherished multiculturalism."The groups are
clashing like never before," says Robert Mundle, chaplain at Toronto's
Rehabilitation Centre. Mundle, an expert on the ethics of religion in
medicine, says Canada can expect to see many more faith-based
confrontations.The latest involves a lesbian couple in Winnipeg
who complained to Manitoba's human rights commission and College of
Physicians and Surgeons that family doctor Karmeila Elias refused to
accept them as patients because of their sexual orientation.

Absolutely we have gone far enough , come here and what do you become Heinz 57 . No wonder the last thing we are is Canadian . We have to bring it to an end enough is enough , you come adjust fit in speak English ! And you commit a crime in the first 5 you go home not to our jail system so we can pay for you . The rules need to be changed and this country will still grow . There are good but we seem to let in too many unskilled and make it to easy to bring in the family later . The rules to get here need to be reviewed and the people who skirt them sent home no if ands buts .

The problem is in allowing any religions to have any rights.
Religious belief is the root of almost all evils in the world!

Hutsis killing Tutsis
Catholics versus protestants
Arab versus Arab
the list goes on and on

i think new people coming to canada better come expecting to change or acommodate their ways or at the very least adapt them to the ways of canadian life.

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What I don't understand is that religion is a very personal thing, so why do we need to broadcast it.? I don't need anyone's help, nor do I expect them to. From what I understand, all religions teach acceptance and understanding, so .....

rosencrentz wrote:Religious belief is the root of almost all evils in the world!

Hutsis killing Tutsis
...

The Hutus and Tutsis were not a religious conflict. It was a cultural conflict.

People should be free to express their religious beliefs as long as they don't violate Canadian laws and basic Canadian values. Obviously there may be some grey areas in the last part of that statement.

Actually, the term "Canadian Values" is a huge grey blob. If we are the "mosaic", what are our values, as our values are the sum of everyone who lives here.

Cultural conflict?
Is that something like the cultural conflict between the Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland?
If that is true , than I have to restate my original message, that all people claiming to be cultured should be banned!! lol
I think it is religious! The history of mankind from the day mankind started 2009 years ago, (according to Bush), is a history of mankind killing each other over either religious beliefs or perhaps cultural beliefs!

No...religions do NOT teach tolerance and understanding.

I've only encountered (personally) one that does...and that's the Unitarians.

ALL others that I'm aware of (either through personal experience or study) have a significant part of their belief system which proves they are intolerant and abusive.

The simple belief that if you are not part of THEIR religion...then you are wrong, and will be damned for it.

It's not something they are going to come out and announce. They aren't going to recruit very many people if they walk around going "Hey...come join us or be damned". But once you do come in...that's the lessons and teachings. That their "church" is the chosen one...and that God will save those who belong and are faithful...and everyone else will have to take their chances on "Judgment Day".

Even Atheists believe this...that everyone who believes in God are wrong...and that Atheists are the only ones who are right...so they'll have a better life.

Rosie: "Ethinic" may be a better term. Hutus and Tutsis were slightly different ethnicities. The Tutsis were generally taller and lighter-skinned, which (as D'allarie tells it) is why they were preferred by the Belgian conquerers. After the Beligians left Rawanda the Hutus rebelled and kicked the Tutsi's out of the country, then the Tutsis regrouped and took back the country, but not before the Hutus slaughtered a million people. All of that had nothing to do with who believed in what god.

grumpy old man wrote:Is it possible that Canada is trying too hard to be all things to all people? Can we accommodate others' religious and cultural needs without duplicating and triplicating processes and procedures ad nauseum?

Should newcomers to Canada integrate or should they expect their religious and cultural beliefs to be met upon landing on our shores?

Have we gone too far and are we now beginning to pay for it?

by Stuart Laidlaw Toronto Star
Whether it's kirpans in a Montreal schoolyard, turbans on a Milton
job site, polygamists in a B.C. town or lesbians in a Winnipeg doctor's
waiting room, opposing cultural and religious rights are giving a rough
ride to Canada's cherished multiculturalism."The groups are
clashing like never before," says Robert Mundle, chaplain at Toronto's
Rehabilitation Centre. Mundle, an expert on the ethics of religion in
medicine, says Canada can expect to see many more faith-based
confrontations.The latest involves a lesbian couple in Winnipeg
who complained to Manitoba's human rights commission and College of
Physicians and Surgeons that family doctor Karmeila Elias refused to
accept them as patients because of their sexual orientation.

Canada has gone too far to be accommodating to all people. England, Germany, France are in the same boat as we are. We should have one set of laws for our country and if you don't follow them or like them, then you are better off in the country in which you were born or go find another place to live.

In Canada you have the charter right of freedom of religion. and If your religion says you cant touch a gay person or spend eternal damnation in hell. If my faith was that strong I would say you are better off seeking another doctor. I would defend that right in the Canadian supreme court. So I have to ask myself, spend all eternity in hell or discriminate. I'll take discriminate as it is only a short term setback. where as hell is for all eternity.

Never understood how the right to disagree was taken away when the charter was made . This document has done more harm then good . Most people hid behind it now including crooks .

I think this thread ties into the "Should O Canada be played every morning in our schools?" thread bigtime. And the answer
is "yes, it sure as sh1t should be!"

I don't think this does tie into the Should Oh Canada be played thread... Not at all...

death128 wrote:I don't think this does tie into the Should Oh Canada be played thread... Not at all...

How isn't it? Two students parents out of like 250 are MINORITIES and are offended by the NATIONAL ANTHEM of Canada?

Yeah sure death, they are not related at all.

death128 wrote:I don't think this does tie into the Should Oh Canada be played thread... Not at all...

You were being facetious no? If not how about explaining why you disagree. Else we are grade schooler debaters...

The Oh Canada thread is about a dumb principal... Oh Canada should be played everywhere all the time... I hope the principal gets fired...

Accommodation is a necessity and shouldn't have anything to do with Oh Canada.

rosencrentz wrote:The problem is in allowing any religions to have any rights.
Religious belief is the root of almost all evils in the world!

Hutsis killing Tutsis
Catholics versus protestants
Arab versus Arab
the list goes on and on

Yep you are right...you forgot to add Jews killing Muslims to your list.

I am far too nice to the cream of the cesspool that washes up on these shores begging to partake of my bounty .
immagrants should be camped on redskin reserves until they renounce their foreign loyalties and prove that they can compete with locals.

YOU are far too nice? What? LMAO

Thats why Tick doesn't post much, it takes some time to come up with those gems.

Incredible letter to the editor in Free Press today! Covers Jews and Aboriginals in Canada.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/tolerance-not-assimilation-saved-jews-in-europe-43687532.html
Assimilation didn't save anybody. A culture of tolerance and generosity did.
How does this relate to the residential school tragedy? We Canadians were so arrogant as to believe that our European-based cultural ways were superior; we were so intolerant of native culture as to wish to see it erased; and we were so cruel as to stand by while some of us tried to brutally impose assimilation on defenceless children. There are no stories of individual heroes who took up the cause of the students and their people.
Why should we apologize? It is not much but at least it is a way of saying that those are not our values anymore and that we mean as a people to do better. We are a tolerant and generous people. An apology gives expression to what we wish to stand for now -- yes, to what is now politically correct.

Well put for we have taken an very sad approach to it .