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To deport or not deport...

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1To deport or not deport... Empty To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:23 am

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By JASON HALSTEAD, SUN MEDIA
A paraplegic Winnipeg man is fighting deportation back to his native England.

Chris Mason, 35, who has lived in Winnipeg since 2001 and lost the use of his legs while residing here, is set to be put on a flight back to Manchester today.

"I'm trying to fight deportation right now and I'm seeking church refuge," he said.

Along with his lawyer, Hafeez Khan, Mason said he was in contact with immigration officials yesterday.

"It's been a fighting situation and an everlasting one," Mason said. "If I go back to England I don't know what's going to happen."

Mason, who came to Canada on an employment visa as a truck driver, said he has had his application to stay in Canada on humanitarian and compassionate grounds turned down by Citizenship and Immigration Canada.

"My lawyer says he can't believe it," Mason said. "We submitted a very good application."

Mason said the response from immigration officials cited his lack of employment and ties in this country as grounds for refusal.

"But I have a lot of support around me, and if I went back to England I wouldn't have anything like that," he said.

If deported, Mason said he would reside in Manchester with his mother, but he would prefer to stay in Canada.

"It has become my home," he said. "I really love living here, I love the people. I have friends, I have people around me."

A spokeswoman for Canada Border Services Agency could not specifically comment on Mason's case yesterday, but said "it is imperative for the integrity of this system that once individuals have exhausted all avenues, they respect our immigration laws and leave Canada."

"In cases where there are medical concerns, CBSA officials will consult with medical professionals and rely on their expertise to determine if a person is in a condition to travel," she said.

Mason lost the use of his legs in 2001, when he was working as a truck driver.

"Herniated vertebrae discs put pressure on my spinal cord, and that put me in a wheelchair," he said.

Mason then undertook job shadowing with Reimer truck lines to train for work as a dispatcher, but he eventually was able to return to driving in 2003 in a modified truck. However, he was struck by a taxi in 2003, injuring his shoulder and forcing him to stop working as a driver.

Mason said he was denied benefits by Manitoba Public Insurance for his injuries sustained in the 2003 accident.

Mason has been on social assistance since the 2003 accident.

"I feel ashamed about it but it's the only way I've been able to survive," he said.
Hard to say how I feel about this. If this man was recruited to Canada, worked, was injured on the job... Should we not allow him to stay?

On the other hand he has been a burden for many years. His argument he has no one back in England does not wash with me.

Should he stay or should he go?

2To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:26 am

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this is where the decision is/
"but he would prefer to stay in Canada."

prefer??? PREFER???? PREFER?????
sheesh its not like he would be going back to some backwater dictatorship where he will be killed for ever coming to Canada.

That said he should get a proper settlement from MPI.. and live in England

3To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:31 am

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I suspect welfare pays more here in Canada eh.

Deport him.

4To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:33 am

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Actually...if he has so many friends in Canada, it's a simple solution.

If he can get someone here to "sponsor" him (and someone can be one person, or a group of people), who will guarantee to be financially responsible for him...then immigration can't turn him down.

The sponsorship is for 10 years, and the sponsor(s) must be Citizens with decent wages and possibility of support.

It was actually part of the process for my immigration. My wife had to sign responsibility for me for 10 years...even if we got divorced...she'd still have that responsibility.

It doesn't have to be a family member, and there's a rule if it's not family that there have to be 5 people willing to sign.

These were the rules in 2004 when I was going through...and I was told all this by the immigration people I was dealing with...and I was here for over a year on a special work permit as a truck driver.

Somebody (probably his lawyer) is giving him bad information on filling out his applications.

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5To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:37 am

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nah.. he just wants the easy way to stay...if he wanted a way to stay that did NOT cost his friends money, then he would choose the option like you say.... then again maybe he asked all his friends and they told him. NOT BLOODY LIKELY MATE!

6To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:29 pm

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So if he had remained a dispatcher, (and never got in that second collision), he would still be able to stay?

7To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:31 pm

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FlyingRat wrote:So if he had remained a dispatcher, (and never got in that second collision), he would still be able to stay?

Of course he would. I say lets keep him and deport 10 others instead...lets deport criminals...send them back instead of housing them in our jails which is costing us way more then this dude is.

8To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:33 pm

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I imagine yes, he is a working contributing citizen. I suspect they want to deport him because he is collecting welfare.

If he cannot work due to the second accident why has there been no settlement with MPI? Seems to me that a paraplegic hit by a cab would be a simple case to reconcile. This does not pass the smell test.

9To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:34 pm

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Ummmm the "smell" test? lol

10To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:36 pm

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Goth_chic wrote:I say lets keep him and deport 10 others instead...lets deport criminals...send them back instead of housing them in our jails which is costing us way more then this dude is.
To the government's credit when non-citizens are convicted of crimes (especially violent crime) they are deported.

Our government is so callous. First they won't allow a Winnipeg cocaine smuggler to serve his sentence in Canada instead of Greece; then a London fraud artist has to stay in Mexico. Now we are deporting cripples.

11To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:38 pm

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FlyingRat wrote:So if he had remained a dispatcher, (and never got in that second collision), he would still be able to stay?

He may have had a better chance if he could maintain A job, but a dispatcher is not listed on Canada's "needed occupations" list. A truck driver is.

A dispatching job would not qualify on the application as a job which would provide any real decision for immigration. In fact, it may work against him, as it may be considered he's in a job which would be "taking a job" from a Canadian citizen.

http://www.photage.ca

12To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:55 pm

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The point is he is not working and is collecting welfare.

13To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:57 pm

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It's too bad we can't deport all those who are not working and collecting welfare... Laughing

14To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:24 pm

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Then halve the city would be gone , and Champs would go broke . Laughing

15To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:55 am

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He's to be put on a plane at 11:00am today (Monday) as he's lost his final pleading in the matter.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/man_to_be_deported_to_britain_today.html

Mason came to Canada in 2001, and said he hasn't lived in Britain since he was eight years old.
Has he been here 7 years without getting his papers??? WTF.
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

16To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:17 pm

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Pavolo wrote:Then halve the city would be gone , and Champs would go broke . Laughing

I'd be all for that. KFC sucks anyhow. Just imagin how much money we would save. We would save from not paying welfare, and we would save from the decline of food related illnesses like Diabetes and obesity once all the fast food restaurants go under.

Lets start rounding them up and shipping them back to their countries of origin or back to their town/province/even reservation of origin.

No I'm not racist, I hate everyone equally.

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17To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:58 pm

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Fine with me .

18To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:45 am

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Did He get on or stop at the church on the way.

19To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:10 am

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Huh?

20To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:46 am

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Pav wants to know if he actually got on a plane or somehow slipped into a churh for refuge before the plane took off.

The answer pav is.. he got on the plane as he was in the remand centre and they took him straight from remand to the plane.

21To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:49 am

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apparently Judy wants to change the law so that we can not deport people like this

http://www.winnipegsun.com/news/winnipeg/2009/01/20/8083726.html

she calls his deportation "intolerable"
she says the excessive demand clause keep talented individuals from moving to Canada.... umm excuse me, but if they are so damn talented then whatever service they perform while in Canada should pretty much remove them from the excessive demand clause as they will be able to pay their own way...but I guess my definition of talent and Judy's might be different.

22To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:27 pm

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She's just a headline-whore.

23To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:38 pm

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funny how another certain MP from Winnipeg has not said anything eh?

24To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:40 pm

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None of them have said anything except her.

25To deport or not deport... Empty Re: To deport or not deport... Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:43 pm

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well I mean one specific one... someone who also had troubles with MPI and might be in a chair.

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