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Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes

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1Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:23 pm

rosencrentz

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Owners, airlines, doctors debate ban
Confining pets to cargo hold on the table
By: Daniela Germano

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PHIL HOSSACK / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS Enlarge Image

Janice Rosen won’t let her dog, Daisy, fly cargo after an unpleasant experience in 1998. She heard her pet crying during the flight so she got off the plane, rented a car and drove to her destination.

Janice Rosen says she'll never fly anywhere without her pet by her
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/owners-airlines-doctors-debate-ban-128301713.html

http://www.elansofas.com

2Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:39 pm

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Good lord! Really? Sorry, I know it sounds heartless, but I don't think pets should be allowed on board.

http://yaciuk.blogspot.com

3Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:42 pm

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Pets do not belong on the plane with passengers. If the pet can't handle being in the heated cargo hold, they should stay home. Many people do not properly kennel train their pets. So when they try and cram one into a kennel for a flight, it turns into hell for everyone else flying.

I was on a WestJet flight and there was a dog that wouldn't stop yapping and crying. I would rather have a dozen crying babies on the plane instead of one annoying untrained dog.

4Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:28 pm

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I would rather have a dozen screeching babies and a dozen yapping dogs on the flight than one smarmy know-it-all... Smile

Dogs should be allowed in the cabin of a plane as long as they can be kept in full control.

That said, when I moved home to Winnipeg I drove from Toronto while my cats flew as cargo. We all survived.

5Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:29 pm

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I only think this is okay if I am allowed to play with their puppies or pussy cat

6Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:35 pm

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Replace "have sex", with " allow pets on board airplanes".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GrdgPzi3-Q

Totally SFW, btw.

http://yaciuk.blogspot.com

7Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:49 pm

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You all have missed the point!!



My daughter's dog has a bigger smile than my daughter! lol

http://www.elansofas.com

8Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:04 pm

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Unless it's an overseas flight then just suck it up and drive if you MUST take your pet. Your not doing your pet any favours kenneling it for the flight if it's never been kennel trained as most dogs are NOT. If your dog is kennel trained it will do just fine in the heated cargo hold, he'll likely just take a nap like you will for the flight. To be safe you can always go to the vet and get some tranquilizers to help him/her relax for the journey. We had to do this years ago with a family dog that did not do well with car trips and had to come with us on a 2,000km+ journey. He spent most of the trip sleeping rather than freaking out in the back seat.



Arguing that pets should be allowed on board just because YOU can't handle the seperation anxiety is stupid. There are ways around the issue. Pets are NOT people despite how much some people would like to treat them as such. There are ways around the problem, most people just don't WANT to make those decisions so it's easier to just say "my dog should be allowed". Sorry, it's a dog and yes it does affect people with allergies. What happens next? Should we allow pet snakes, pigs, rabbits etc. on board because they are stressed out? I have no urge to sit next to some lady with a rabbit in a cage that smells worse than any litterbox. What happens when these pets on board have an accident? Yes, it happens. Not long ago there was an episode of Ice Pilots with a Great Dane taking dumps all over the plane on a flight. That's just moronic bringing a dog that large on board, you realy want to sit next to that?



Suck it up and kennel your dog if they're trained to do so, drive if they're not trained, or leave the dog etc. behind.

9Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:18 pm

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Yup. That's what is being discussed here. I demand to bring a pig on board. Why even insert such absurdities into this discussion?

Pets are incredibly beloved and to dismiss that attachment as stupid shows an supreme lack of sensitivity.

I'm not the least bit surprised.

I don't like your position so therefore it is stupid.

10Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:12 pm

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I was going to ask Rosie if Janice belonged to him. The Freep was looking for input on Facebook re: bad experiences with pets/airlines, and she volunteered the information. I thought the Freep was going to slag airlines for mishandling.

My animals have travelled cargo when we've flown. Even the cat who fit under the seat. Unless I was transporting a really young puppy, I wouldn't bother to ask to have them above. That said, I don't really have an issue with animals on board. At least, not from an allergies perspective. They're generally better behaved than other people's bastard children.

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11Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:19 pm

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GOM, that's the next step. If dog's and cat's are allowed why not other pets? People love their pigs, rabbits etc. just as much as you or I would love our dog. There was not to long ago a pot bellied big that went berserk on a US flight, running up and down the isle and knocking people over injuring a few in the process.



Do we really want to turn flying into a 3rd world bus experience just because dog's are "beloved" by some people? Seriously, there are other alternatives some pet owners just refuse to consider them simply because they refuse to treat their dog/cat whatever as anything less than a person. They're not, they are a dog , period. The fact that you or I as a pet owner choose the responsiblity of pet ownership does not mean that we get to force our pets on others because it's what we want. There's are plenty of people that do have legitimate fear/phobias/ and allergies related to other people's pets. It's not fair to force yours or my pet's on them because we don't like the alternatives.



I have had dog's and cats for almost my entire life and I love my dog's very much. That being said I would never expect that an airline MUST accomodate my CHOICE to travel with a pet. It may be an inconvienience to me to make other arrangements but that is not a reason to inconvienience others who choose not to own pets. I knew what I was getting into when I choose to share my home with pets, I don't expect allowance's to be made for my decision.



People really need to put some common sense into this one and leave their emotions at the door. Like I said there are options, wether or not one chooses not to use them is their problem not the flying publics. No one is forcing anybody to fly with their pets, so why is it fair to force pets upon others in a confined space?

12Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:10 pm

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Dogs or cats in a small kennel travelling in front of their owner is a no brainer, who cares? The article was a request for input from someone who had a bad experience.

When I used to take the bus through the NorthEnd, many aboriginals and older Ukrainian and Jewish farmers used to take their chickens and goats on the bus!

http://www.elansofas.com

13Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:03 am

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Kids can tell their parents when they need to go potty. Babies have diapers installed.

Pets will go where and when they need to.

I can tune babies out with headphones.

I can't plug my nostrils.

Case closed.

http://yaciuk.blogspot.com

14Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:04 am

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I would also rather have a crying baby on board than a whimpering, scared, confused dog with sharp teeth.

Really, this whole thing just seems like common sense to me.

http://yaciuk.blogspot.com

15Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:58 am

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I believe that many pet owners are concerned with the fact that many pets die in transport in the cargo area of aircraft.

16Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:53 am

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If your that concerned then the answer is very simple....don't bring your pet. Not rocket science.

My dog's are 8 and 14 years old and both toy breed's. Wanna guess how many flights they've joined us on? ZERO. There is no need for it 95% of the time. Either find a dog sitter, kennel your dog or heaven forbid just drive to your destination where you can keep your pets with you at all times.

Very few people NEED to fly with their pets, they WANT to fly with their pets and they CHOOSE to fly with their pets. Huge difference.

Unless your moving overseas I really don't see any NEED to ever fly with your pet.

Geez, just look at the relpies in the Freep...people calling their dog's their children. Some people need to give their head a shake. Just cause you believe something to be true doesn't make it so. I'm a long time pet owner and it seems pretty clear to me that the needs of people with real medical issues should always come before the needs of someone's pet.

17Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Empty Re: Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:04 am

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Thank you, grumpyrom. Some people blur the line with their pets, and it's creepy.

At my last job, I received Christmas cards every year from a co-workers dogs. Really?!?!

Here's an excerpt from a blog post I did about 5 years ago, that details another woman I worked with who crossed the line.

Full post: http://yaciuk.blogspot.com/2006/01/sunshine-pet.html

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The following is a true story from my past, told in the Paul Harvey tradition.

Ban On Pets Flying in Airplanes Paul_picAnd now... The Rest of the StoryTM.

It
was the early days of the twenty-first century. Donovan was trapped in
the lunch room of his work, listening to another one of Mary's stories
about her children.

"Timmy kept crawling into bed with me, and wouldn't let me sleep!"
"Dwayne was really hungry this morning, and I had to get up early to feed him."
"Timmy was playing in the garbage the other day, and I got the cutest picture of him. "

Bored by her constant ramblings, Donovan decided to interrupt her usual status report by asking her how old her children were.

"So, how old are you're children?" he asked, praying for an escape.
"They are two years old! They were born a day apart." she replied.
"Wow! Twins!", Donovan exclaimed.

Well, Mary's reply was a curt as it was puzzling. She answered him with a straightforward... "No.".

No?
Her children were born a day apart, and weren't twins? How could this
be? Donovan decided to drop the question. Perhaps they were adopted -
either way, he didn't feel like listening to her anymore.

As the
weeks past, he was pestered again and again and again by Mary's endless
obsession over her children. "Timmy and Dwayne were climbing all over my
chesterfield. Dwayne loves to be touched behind his ears! I hope Timmy
doesn't get anyone in the neighborhood pregnant!"

A few weeks
later, Donovan saw a crowd gathered around Mary's desk. It turns out she
had brought her children to work! Curiousity getting the better of him,
Donovan approached her desk. There, being held gently in Mary's arms,
were her "children". Timmy was in her right hand, and Dwayne in the
other. Both were purring loudly.

Purring? Oh yes! For you see, Mary's children were not her offspring. Timmy and Dwayne, her "children", were her.... Cats.

And now, YOU know... the REST of the story.
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