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the winnipeg sandbox » winnipeg sports... » other sports discussion... » NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season

NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season

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1NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Empty NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:01 pm

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After the 2004-2005 lockout, the NHL salary cap was $39 million.
For the 2011-2012 season the cap is expected to be $64 million.
(The floor is expected to be $48 million ).
This means each NHL team must spend between $48 - $64 million on players salaries for the next NHL season.

I wonder if some owners are wondering if the lockout was worthwhile.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2011/06/20/cap_increase/

grumpy old man

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It's surprising that it jumped so much this year...

3NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Empty Re: NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:33 pm

JT Estoban

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I'm sure the lower end teams that enjoy the revenue sharing agreement aren't complaining too much about this. Razz

They have bigger issues to deal with, such as attendance.

4NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Empty Re: NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:39 pm

grumpy old man

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Actuall JT E, the lower spending teams would be concerned as the low end went up as well...

5NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Empty Re: NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:58 pm

JT Estoban

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Yes GOM, your correct, the minimum salary level rises and lowers (ha! never happened yet) with the ceiling.

My point was that most teams that spend the minimum (Phoenix, formerly-Atlanta, Florida etc.) are usually doing so because of unstable attendance and/or ownership issues (usually due to crappy attendence) and those teams usually qualify for revenue sharing (so long as they meet the standards, which is usually a minimum attendance level, which explains why those teams fudge the numbers, so they qualify)

Couple the revenue sharing with the new TeeVee contract, and I'll argue that those smaller market teams are getting a ton more support than the previous CBA.

Just my $0.02 Wink

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I thought the reason the floor was in the player contract was to ensure each team spent "at least" the floor on player salaries. IE: at least try to be competitive.

AGEsAces

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I don't understand why there is a floor to begin with?

If I can put together a winning team for less money...who cares how much money I pay my players?

http://www.photage.ca

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The players who would be getting paid chump change to play do.

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how so?
if the players think they are THAT good that they should earn more...they would go play for a different team.

but if I, as an owner, can put together a team of dedicated players, and give them a reasonable salary to go out and do a good job...and that salary is less than some fictional "floor"...then so be it.

understand though, I think a team that wants to compete and win games would be hard pressed to hire players to get the job done and keep the salaries below that "floor"...but it should not be something forced upon an owner to spend.

That's like saying "I want to build this building over here...and I want to spend at LEAST $10M...even though all the material & labour can be found for only $5M." --- hey, it actually sounds a LOT like government spending Wink.

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10NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Empty Re: NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:41 pm

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The floor is to avoid the tightwad teams from skimping too much.

11NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Empty Re: NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:46 pm

Deank

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"...they would go play for a different team."

uh... no. no they can not. thats not the way contracts work in the NHL.

12NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Empty Re: NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:45 pm

grumpy old man

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Yes, but there are other leagues. The KHL for example has outbid the NHL for some Russian players. And at the lower end of the pay scale some European teams can compete.

13NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Empty Re: NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:58 pm

Deank

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difficult enough getting some saskabush guy to play in florida.. never mind halfway around the world. not many from north america go there.

14NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Empty Re: NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:08 pm

grumpy old man

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You're kidding right? Hundreds of North Americans are playing all over Europe.

15NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Empty Re: NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:43 pm

eViL tRoLl

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AGEsAces wrote:I don't understand why there is a floor to begin with?
it's because of the evil powers of the UNION NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season 143558

16NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Empty Re: NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:11 am

Deank

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grumpy old man wrote:You're kidding right? Hundreds of North Americans are playing all over Europe.

all after turning down the NHL right?

17NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Empty Re: NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:27 am

grumpy old man

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Well no. My point was merely that there is a viable, well paying alternative. That alternative is a bargaining chip. If you don't like the offer an NHL throws at you you can decline it and sign for similar money elsewhere. There are still several NHL calibre players playing in Europe, especially the KHL, that could be excellent players in the NHL.

18NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Empty Re: NHL Player Salary Cap 2011-2012 Season Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:18 am

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But its not really an option

Its like me telling my boss.. no.. that 2.5% raise you gave me is not enough I am going to go work in Australia, where I know I can get 59% more.

But I would not work in Australia.. its too damn hot. and the poisonous stuff that freaks me out...and I would be pretty far away from my family.

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