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New findings detail earnings of First Nations politicians

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By JASON HALSTEAD, Winnipeg Sun

Financial data made public by the Canadian Taxpayers Federation Monday show more than 82 First Nations politicians across the country earned more than the prime minister in 2008 and 2009, while 222 earned more than the premiers in their respective provinces.

The most recent financial data expand on information released by the CTF last month that laid bare chiefs’ earnings.

Colin Craig, Prairies director of the CTF, said the chiefs’ salary data was startling enough, but said the complete picture of band council salaries and additional income from band-owned enterprises even more strongly underscores the need for transparency.

“The figures are shocking in many instances,” he said. “There are many reserve politicians across the country earning way more than the prime minister despite serving communities that are a few hundred to a couple thousand people.”

Craig said the data reveal some appallingly high salaries. In the most extreme instance, a politician on an Atlantic Canada reserve with a population of just 304 people earned a total annual tax-free income of $978,468, which would be the equivalent of a taxable income of almost $1.8 million.

The financial data released by Indian and Northern Affairs Canada did not identify chiefs or councillors by name, nor did it name First Nations.

Craig said the financial data show the need for Tory MP Kelly Block’s private member’s bill before Parliament, which would publicize online the salaries First Nations politicians receive through federal funding.

“Now everyone’s wondering who these individuals are who are filling their pockets,” Craig said. “Transparency is the first step. Beyond that, I think there are going to be a lot of outraged band members when they find out what’s going on. These dollars are meant to give a hand up to people in the community.”

Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs Grand Chief Ron Evans said it’s ultimately up to band members to hold their political leaders accountable to set reasonable salaries, but admitted he was troubled by the newly released numbers.

“It’s very disturbing that salaries could be as high as what has been reported when the majority of the leadership are making an average of $60,000 per year,” Evans said. “It really paints a negative picture when there are many chiefs making good efforts to provide the best leadership for their communities.”

Evans said the AMC’s executive council of chiefs has passed a resolution urging membership to disclose salaries and expenses to band members, something that is already mandated under INAC rules.

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This story claims that more than 300 chiefs earn more than the premier of their province or the Prime Minister of Canada. Yet Ron Evans says the "majority of the leadership are making an average of $60,000* per year".

How many first nations are there in Canada? I understand the total population of Indians in Canada is in the 1.7 million ballpark. 300 chiefs is NOT the majority?

The apologists and contrarians will defend this bullsh1t for some reason. But the average taxpayer complaints about the cost of INAC and the related BS a small community imposes on Canada is well made.

*TAXFREE!

Freeman

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Weren't the treaties made under the premise "as long as the sun shines, the grass grows and the cash flows"?

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Chiefs tend to take care of themselves first. This has gone on since the beginning of time.

Should it be changed, absolutely. Will it be changed, not really. No different than the benefits issue. When you are allowed to write your own rules, you can do what you like.

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Is anyone here really surprised about this? We read about this crap every 2 months. The stories are always the same, the public's disgust is always the same, yet nothing changes.

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Idiot's right. (That sounds strange for some reason) But this really isn't news, is it? Perhaps there are more details this time. Interesting that an organization receiving public funding (provincial), must provide a report under the Public Sector Compensation Disclosure Act, which details the names and amounts of any employee receiving remuneration in excess of $50,000. But, granted its federal money, such details are not required from First Nations.

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I wanna be an Indian Chief.

Fu uck this working for a living sh it.

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Potty mouth... Smile

Freeman

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I see the Grand Chief is already referring to this as "slander." How can you slander someone when no names were released?

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How can it be slander when it is true?

Farging icewhole.

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You slandered da NATION


Ugh , this native issue is so counter productive. Buy them out already.

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Website: Names of reserves aren't listed, but the population figures are provided.

http://www.taxpayer.com/node/13427

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holly golightly

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I wonder if what Ron Evans is stating as $60,000 is only the actual money that is taken in by the chief (deposited to bank account) and what the CTF is taking into account is all of the other expenses that would show on a T4 for any other person, such as the chief's home, utilities, personal expenses like groceries, phone, etc as well as vehicle(s) payments, gas, travel and any other monetary expense that you could receive a receipt for to submit. Basically a chief and his family can claim anything that is receiptable, that could add up to $300,000 per year.

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And here's your list of Manitoba's highest income earners:

http://www.manitobachiefs.com/communities/communities.html

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holly golightly wrote:I wonder if what Ron Evans is stating as $60,000 is only the actual money that is taken in by the chief (deposited to bank account) and what the CTF is taking into account is all of the other expenses that would show on a T4 for any other person, such as the chief's home, utilities, personal expenses like groceries, phone, etc as well as vehicle(s) payments, gas, travel and any other monetary expense that you could receive a receipt for to submit. Basically a chief and his family can claim anything that is receiptable, that could add up to $300,000 per year.

They don't pay income tax.

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But they put in claims for payment of items, such as utilities, cell phone bills, gas, vehicle payments etc. This type of claim would/could show up on any tax paying person's T4 as taxable "income" even though it was not actual "money in the bank" to the chief. This is where,if all receipts were added to the actual "cash in the bank" could/would show as the chief "making" (stealing) $300,000 a year in "salary" (tax payer's money).

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...neat how there's no comments for either story in the SUN this morning.

Wonder why....they normally don't have any issue stirring the pot and opening the comment floodgates....end of the month bandwidth restrictions you suppose? Wink

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holly golightly wrote:But they put in claims for payment of items, such as utilities, cell phone bills, gas, vehicle payments etc. This type of claim would/could show up on any tax paying person's T4 as taxable "income" even though it was not actual "money in the bank" to the chief. This is where,if all receipts were added to the actual "cash in the bank" could/would show as the chief "making" (stealing) $300,000 a year in "salary" (tax payer's money).

I hear ya. ....and for the record, I don't believe that they have to get the approval of anyone for their expenses...they are the chief and they approve everything anyway.

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The reports do not give a clear picture of their earnings. A band leader who has spent $23,000 on a meeting in the Bahamas, gets that amount added to "his earnings", and that is obviously not fair.
When the newspaper reports that 80% of the Chiefs have earned more than our Prime Minister Harper, well anyone with a job is earning more than Harper earns!

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