More Bad Traffic Circles!

After all the uproar over the traffic circles in river heights, now this:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breaki ... Comments=y

Nassau? I would like someone to tell me what provisions the city has made to accommodate the traffic that will be re-routed off Nassau. Or, more than likely, there isn't any provision.

Stupidest thing ever.

I'm a card carrying BTTF member, but if they had anything to do with this, I'll be a card-burning BTTF member!

All the bloody traffic is now going down the back lanes.

As you've said, there wasn't proper thought given to the consequences of making Nassau a one-way street.

Fargin iceholes share a brain eh.

Plus, to my knowledge, traffic isn't a problem, and I live in the area.

This is a case of stupid people doing stupid things...again.

Well, if they don't work we can always change them back...

Who's the one who created the redundant thread title?

You could have just said "More Traffic Circles!"...cause just the nature of them is understood to be "BAD"

Like I said...going the wrong way and getting hung up...love it...

They have made River Heights/Crescentwood into a giant clusterfuck for vehicular traffic...especially Nassau. As JTF mentioned above it's just forcing everyone onto back lanes. Another unintended effect is that it's backing up Corydon eastbound in the mornings even more as vehicles wishing to get to Pembina southbound have no choice now but to go all the way up to Confusion Corner and then turn right. Before this one-way stupidity many vehicles would turn off at Nassau to get over to Pembina southbound.

There is a lot of high density housing in the neighbourhood and trying to route everyone over to the major arteries at all times (Osborne, Corydon, Pembina) is only congesting them even worse at rush hour.

What is the point of all this crap again? To clear the roads for a few granola munchers? Mark my words, there are going to be MANY, MANY collisions come next summer and the beginning of the Corydon Avenue patio season. You mix this idiotic planning with alcohol and distracted drivers looking for parking in an unfamiliar neighbourhood and you have a recipe for lots of potential injuries.

The city should have brought this crap up with some people who actually live in the hood and understand the potential repurcusions.

Is that supposed to be a bike route?

To bad some people will do whatever to save time on their journey like blast thru parking lots and speed down residential streets . All to save that 2 minutes per commute then most of this would not be necessary . Drivers are the only ones who can stop it slow down .

I reckon the same brainiacs that made the mess on Assiniboine are the same ones that made the decision to make one block of Nassau one-way, with a backlane about 100 feet away...which they didn't think people will use.

Pavolo wrote:To bad some people will do whatever to save time on their journey like blast thru parking lots and speed down residential streets . All to save that 2 minutes per commute then most of this would not be necessary . Drivers are the only ones who can stop it slow down .

Pav, as someone who actually lives in the neighborhood I don't see anything wrong with "doing whatever it takes to save 2 min". If the city would fix the problems with the main arteries there would be no need to use alternate routes. We're not talking about saving 2-3 minutes either, more like 10-15 minutes can be wasted every day in the getting across the village if one does not know alternate routes. All this will do is increase the delays in the Village even more AND push people onto back lanes/further down onto streets like Daly.

I for one will not sit in a parking lot at Confusion Corner just to appease a bunch of NIMBYS who would rather see no vehicles on their street. What's next? Turn all the residential streets in the neighborhood into bike paths only to keep everyone "safe"?

There are a large amount of actual residents in the neighborhood who DO drive and who should have the RIGHT to use the streets in their own neighborhood as they see fit. This is just pandering to a loud, very vocal MINORITY.

Stop wasting money and stupid sh1t like bike lanes and traffic circles and fix the problems with flow on the main arteries and we ALL benefit from reduced congestion on residential streets. Treating the symptoms is just plain stupid.

Great post grumpyrom.

ditto.

The use of these 'bump outs' along Nassau just caused the traffic to back-up needlessly (as a result of incompetent drivers' inability to navigate the streets) I noticed years ago, when they were first installed.

Then, the idea was to disuade traffic from using these side streets.

It didn't work then, and it won't work now. I mean, what are these people thinking...you're gonna' have traffic in the big city....get used to it. (But not speeding down back lanes though:))
Imo, it makes more sense to move the traffic through the neighbourhood quickly and efficiently and get it over with.

I'm missing something here...
Why is the city building bike routes ON the streets???
You can only use them for a certain amount of time during the year.
How much does it cost to maintain these routes?
Weren't they supposed to be built away from traffic? (Like around Assiniboine Park).
Can't they be built along the rivers and on available fields between developments?
Traffic has always been extremely slow in Winnipeg. If certain drivers don't know how to control the weight of their right foot, then they just shouldn't drive.
Just install those uprise speedbumps near critical areas (like schools and playgrounds, etc.) and have signs put up to warn drivers and especially snow plows.
Having read so many complaints about the traffic situation in Winnipeg gets me thinking, maybe it's time to replace the people in charge of this mess...

Agreed, but that would make sense.

It almost feels as thought someone at city hall really, really hates cars and is trying to force us onto bikes and buses. It should be an individual choice, not something forced upon the individual.

Electrician wrote:Having read so many complaints about the traffic situation in Winnipeg gets me thinking, maybe it's time to replace the people in charge of this mess...

I think we had a chance to do that last month.
But we missed the boat.

I voted for a Mayor and Councillor who I felt would best represent my interests at City HAll, not because I thought they were traffic engineers. Hopefully, the folks that got elected will hold those paid employees who are supposed experts, accountable for their stupidity.

As usual , many have missed the brilliance in this move! Luckily I am here to explain it to you!
The back lanes are in better shape than the streets, so the City is trying to even out the wear and tear by having trafic re-routed!

rosencrentz wrote:As usual , many have missed the brilliance in this move! Luckily I am here to explain it to you!
The back lanes are in better shape than the streets, so the City is trying to even out the wear and tear by having traffic re-routed!

...and I thought the reason was to enhance the take-out and delivery service offered by pushers...

Does any one think that a minority if bicycle riders have caused this crap?
I thought it was to take advantage of federal stimulous money?
I cannot believe that the broke City of Wpg would spend any sum of money on a program that benefits the 11 bike riders who take their bikes all winter long!
Does any one know where this repair money is coming from? How much money is being "INVESTED"?

It seems they can't spend the money fast enough

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/on-the-path-to-no-more-cash-107676363.html

And THAT is the fundamental problem with this program. In their haste to spend they picked poor, ill-conceived programs, without proper consultation.

It was my understanding the money was to be used only for shovel-ready programs. I'm willing to bet big bucks many of these bike-paths and traffic-calming initiative existed in some twit's mind only when the money was doled out.

"Posted by: felix1

November 13, 2010 at 9:18 PM



Perhaps when cyclists come to understand that stop signs are not violations of their human rights, they will get a little more public sympathy. That's the entire motivation behind these stupid traffic circles."



That just about made me snort my coffee out. I think that's exactly how most motorist feel about cyclists. I used to have this argument about once a week with one of the avid cyclist at my work who felt he had the right to blow through stop signs because "not all cars come to a complete stop either". Ya, but most cars don't blow through at 20 or 30km/h either dumbass.

Yesterday, there was a fire in an apartment block on McMillan Avenue.

When I heard the sirens coming, we were anxious to see how the fire trucks would navigate the traffic circle at Nassau and Gertrude, so we went outside to look.

Well, the first two trucks stopped at Nassau briefly, then went ahead another 100 feet or so, and then turned down the back lane to get to McMillan. Nassau has now become one-way north from McMillan to Nassau so they didn't want to go the wrong way on Nassau I presume.

When other trucks came, some did the same while others disregarded the one-way signs on Nassau and went down the street the wrong way.

The situation was chaotic.

I cannot believe just how little thought went into these changes.

I emailed 311 to ask if this was the intent when the changes were made. I can't wait for a reply.

My email:

Message:
With the recent change of Nassau Street to one-way north from McMillan to Gertrude, traffic has now patterned itself to use the backlanes parallel to Nassau instead to navigate southward.

Fire trucks use the backlanes as well as driving the wrong way on Nassau to reach McMillan now, as evidenced by their action attending to the fire at 584 McMillan yesterday (Nov.14/10).

Is this new traffic patterning the intended purpose of the changes to Nassau street, and, if not, what is the city doing to rectify this situation?