outdoor pools in Winnipeg

AGEsAces wrote:I think the city focused more on indoor pools than outdoor, since there's more usage available, and it's not that much more expensive to build.

If you think about it...an indoor pool is basically the same as an outdoor, but you build a warehouse over the top of it, plus maintenance costs are cut significantly because the pool is not subjected to the elements.


However, a big water park or two would be justified imo. That'll keep kids out of gangs eh?

Obviously you've never had an indoor pool.

The friggin' costs to maintain one are astronomical!!

The building they're in has to be it's own little world because of the high humidity levels.

I won't even go into the costs of heating the water and the room itself. Those costs alone will support a small African village for a century.

Compare this to a concave chunk of concrete with some unheated water in it and you'll find a big difference to the taxpayer.

Deank wrote:
But it certainly would be nice to have another kildonan park type pool in the city. Maybe even out charlsewood way.

I thought just old people lived in Charleswood?

A couple of water parks in the city would be good though eh?

That'll keep kids out of gangs....well, maybe a few.

"Compare this to a concave chunk of concrete with some unheated water in it and you'll find a big difference to the taxpayer."

exactly

I've been trying to find our price quotes so I could get the numbers right.

I've seen them, but I think they are archived now (meaning a real hassle to pull them).

Basically...and outdoor city pool is not just a concave pour of concrete.
It's a big rectangle sloped and formed, and any concave shaping is done AFTER the first pour to create a cavity for pumps, filters, etc.

The GRADE of the concrete is also significantly higher to withstand temperature extremes.
There is also a foundation poured to support the pool deck, and the ancillary buildings associated (locker room, showers, pool maintenance house, filters).

But all of those costs would be the same (or less) than an indoor pool.

Again, the only real additional costs for the indoor is the building envelope, and the mechanical electrical to provide heat.

Incidentally...an public indoor pool heating costs are minimal...and typically the pool area is not heated at all (or kept very low), as the heat from the pool is sufficient to keep the air at a reasonable temperature.

Understand that the costs are EXTREMELY different than someone who has an indoor pool in their home. And the building envelope is typically completely different, as someone with an indoor pool in their home still wants it to "feel" like a home, so the materials selected and accessories used are not the same as a more commercial environment.

There was a report that the city commissioned several years ago about public facilities and thats where I saw the comments/stats, etc about the cost of indoor pools. It is real.

sent you a private message freeman

Deank wrote:sent you a private message freeman

lucky me.

Condition of Recreation Leisure and Library Buildings - Facility Condtion Index (FCI)
Facility FCI 2006 FCI 2007 FCI 2008 Investment Required Over
10 Years (2009 to 2019)
Field Houses 0.14 0.17 0.17 $1,903,000
Daycares 0.16 0.19 0.19 $2,300,000
Indoor Pools 0.18 0.18 0.18 $75,500,000
Community Centres/Soccer/Arena Complexes (Note 1) 0.24 0.20 0.20 $81,421,000
Libraries 0.19 0.23 0.23 $18,900,000
Recreation Centres/Leisure Centres (Note 2) 0.26 0.21 0.21 $13,027,000
Arenas 0.36 0.39 0.39 $57,800,000
Wading Pools 0.43 0.43 0.43 $4,200,000
Senior Centres 0.70 0.24 0.24 $1,407,000
Outdoor Pools 0.70 0.39 0.18 $6,600,000
TOTAL n/a n/a n/a $263,085,000
Note 1: Buildings operated by Community Centre boards including community centres, arenas and soccer buildings were combined into

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Facility Investment Required Over 10 Years (2009 to 2019)
Indoor Pool $75,500,000

Wading Pools $4,200,000

Outdoor Pools $6,600,000