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Brodbeck round 3

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1Brodbeck round 3 Empty Brodbeck round 3 Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:14 am

Jondo

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Another great piece that convert even the slowest thinkers out there.

http://www.winnipegsun.com/news/columnists/tom_brodbeck/2010/08/17/15056646.html

2Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:11 am

rosencrentz

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Does anyoe think that the red light contract would ever be published? There would be serious litigation, if that was made public! The company would be seriously damaged in its ability to land new contracts with other cities.

http://www.elansofas.com

3Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:50 am

grumpy old man

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Keep up the good work guys!

4Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:27 pm

JT Estoban

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Good work Jondo and co.

Question, what kind of responses have you been getting (if any) from local politicians now that "it" has finally hit the fan and it being forced upon them?

I've written to my councilor, the mayor and my MLA, regularly. They never have the guts to reply.

Just wondering what they are saying (if anything) to you guys who are forcing the issue. Smile

5Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:33 pm

grumpy old man

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JT Esteban, have you written to your city councilor and the mayor now that there is an election? Still nothing?

I will be writing my councilor and demanding he declare his position or he will not get my vote.

6Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:44 pm

JT Estoban

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I live in Elmwood, the NDP-placeholder is leaving and doesn't give a crap. Hasn't for years.

I'm probably on her blocked list.

The last time she "responded" was by getting one of her lackeys to call to tell me she's not interested in addressing my comments.


7Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:56 pm

grumpy old man

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Yikes. Talk about a sense of entitlement eh?

8Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:08 pm

JT Estoban

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Yes indeedily, that woman is so full of herself it's not even funny.

...don't get me started!!!

9Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:09 pm

Jondo

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Thanks for the positive remarks. Yes, we've heard from several councilors who want to meet. They are now canvassing a consortium of like-minded councilors and we will present our factual position to them as a group in the near future. Let’s put democracy to the test. Regardless of your position on this important safety issue – contact your councilor (below) and ask that they declare a position.
WiseUpWinnipeg

mayor@winnipeg.ca
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10Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:05 pm

cherenkov

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Brodbeck is getting in the bad habit of turning every sentence into a paragraph, and starting them with words like "but" and "which". He's not resorting to one word paragraphs like Gordo yet, but he ought to be careful.

http://anybody-want-a-peanut.blogspot.com/

11Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:12 pm

grumpy old man

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I think brodbeck is turning into ggf...

greeblok

12Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:19 pm

grumpy old man

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I sent this eMAIL to John Orlikow:
Dear sir,

As we are having an election this year I’d like to know what your position is regarding red light cameras.

Do you believe the red light camera program is about safety?

Are you for adding a second to every yellow light where there is a red light camera?
If not, why not?
If yes, when?

Does the existing city contract with the company that handles Winnipeg red light cameras forbid the city from changing the timing of yellow lights?

If so, why is that?

I will be posting this question and your reply on the Winnipeg forum www.winnipegsandbox.com.

How you respond, or not respond, will directly affect who I vote for.

Thank you.

13Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:49 pm

Jondo

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Good job Grumpy. I hope others do the same. That is the question/s to put to your councillor. I would cut and paste that as is.

14Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:39 am

JT Estoban

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Good post GOM.

I borrowed your questions and emailed "most" of the list this morning.

We'll see what happens next!

15Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:01 pm

grumpy old man

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I received this response from Mr. Orlikow today:
Hello (gom),

I am working with Todd from WiseupWinnipeg on this issue and will get a direct reply to you by the end of next week.

Please let me know if this is a problem however I am not back to the City until Tuesday.

Yours truly,

John Orlikow
He included a trail of emails from wiseupwinnipeg and other media types. I will give him the week he requested.

16Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:30 pm

rosencrentz

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G.O.M. you better vote for Orlikow, or else!!
He was a great server at Bombolini's a few years ago!

http://www.elansofas.com

17Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:35 pm

Jondo

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Is that what he did prior?

18Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:01 pm

freepressreader

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He was a school trustee immediately prior. Don't know about earlier then that.

He comes from a family of politicians in MB.

19Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:01 pm

grumpy old man

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Tomorrow is the end of the week. Nothing so far. Be interesting to see what he has to say -- IF he responds...

Has anyone else contacted the mayor or their councilor?

grumpy old man wrote:I received this response from Mr. Orlikow today:
Hello (gom),

I am working with Todd from WiseupWinnipeg on this issue and will get a direct reply to you by the end of next week.

Please let me know if this is a problem however I am not back to the City until Tuesday.

Yours truly,

John Orlikow
He included a trail of emails from wiseupwinnipeg and other media types. I will give him the week he requested.

20Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:23 am

JT Estoban

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Nope, nothing from any of them....

Guess I'm on the sh*t list. Smile

21Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:27 am

grumpy old man

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I find it very compelling that not one councilor has even mentioned this issue in the campaigns. More compelling is how quiet sammy has been given the increased exposure this issue has received.

I'd say they are all scared silly about losing the revenue now that the cat is out of the bag.

Orlikow has 7 hours to respond.

22Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:42 am

Jondo

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I think Sam has said all he's going to say and that being that it's about safety the5refotre he's already commissioned a review of facts. We will stay on top of that effort. I believe that councillors are waitting to become truly informed and they expect that to be next week. I'm in the final arrangements of having Congressman Loudermilk in Winnipeg next Thursday for a Councillors/Mayor's presentation, followed by a presentation to the media. Nobody will ignore that day. They all know of this plan so that may be the reason you're not hearing back yet.

23Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:58 am

grumpy old man

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Orlikow did not respond. That surprises me and disappoints me. I guess it validates the growing feeling that politicians are becoming more unresponsive.

While it is all well and good they are waiting to hear from Loudermilk this debate is not rocket surgery. They surely have an independent thought on the matter.

Do you believe the red light camera program is about safety?

Are you for adding a second to every yellow light where there is a red light camera?
If not, why not?
If yes, when?

Does the existing city contract with the company that handles Winnipeg red light cameras forbid the city from changing the timing of yellow lights?

If so, why is that?

Mr. Orlikow, why have you not responded to your constituent?

24Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:09 am

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Jondo wrote:I think Sam has said all he's going to say and that being that it's about safety the5refotre he's already commissioned a review of facts. We will stay on top of that effort. I believe that councillors are waitting to become truly informed and they expect that to be next week. I'm in the final arrangements of having Congressman Loudermilk in Winnipeg next Thursday for a Councillors/Mayor's presentation, followed by a presentation to the media. Nobody will ignore that day. They all know of this plan so that may be the reason you're not hearing back yet.

It's good of you to do it, but is it really required to make up one's mind?

I haven't heard Loudermilk and I've made up my mind. Smile

Imo, the councillors that are silent are not waiting to hear from Loudermilk, but rather are waiting to see which way the wind is blowing on the issue.....how the majority of the public feels about the issue.

Believe it or not, there are a lot of people out there that don't believe adding a second will do anything....dispite the evidence to the contrary.

Hell, some people believe Elvis is still alive.

25Brodbeck round 3 Empty Re: Brodbeck round 3 Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:10 am

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GOM. I hope you weren't holding your breath.

Orlicker is asking around to see how he thinks. Smile

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