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Nanny State Should BUTT OUT

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1Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:32 pm

LivingDead

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Nanny state should butt out

Rob Breakenridge wrote:When we suddenly awake one day to find that smokers are criminals,
it will seem fitting that prison itself might be one of the few places
left to legally smoke.
A number of federal inmates will argue in court this week that their
rights are being violated by the smoking ban imposed by Correctional
Services Canada last year.
Should the challenge succeed, we can all sit back and marvel at the
baffling legal construct where a convicted murderer would be permitted
to smoke, but it would be forbidden for a trucker to do so.
In Ontario last week, a truck driver was stopped by police and
issued a $305 ticket after being spotted on Highway 401 with a
cigarette in his mouth. You see, the Smoke-Free Ontario Act prohibits
smoking in the workplace -- a trucker's truck is his workplace.

In fact, even if a trucker owns his vehicle and even if no one else
but him drives it, it is still illegal for him to smoke in the truck.

Alberta's own law contains similar provisions, although no such
citations seem to have been issued here. Pardon the pun, but the wheels
have come completely off whatever justification previously existed for
stringent anti-smoking measures.

I don't smoke, it is bad for you. But I don't think it should be illegal for a guy to smoke in a vehicle he/she owns.

What are your opinions?

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2Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:40 pm

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If there are kids in the car, then butt out.

Otherwise who cares.

3Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:40 pm

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That's insane. If you own the truck and there is no one else in it, you should be able to do what ever you want in it.

4Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:52 pm

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I wonder if the cop was trying to meet a quota. Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Icon_smile

5Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:40 pm

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This was stupid, and even the person who supported the ticket (from the government) admitted it was just to prove a point. Read this story in the sun (I think) a few weeks ago, can't remember who was quoted in it, sorry.

6Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:00 pm

grumpy old man

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Heh heh. This should get AA going...

But no, if it is his own vehicle, and he carries no passengers, then the law is an ass... Oh, and so is the cop that issued the ticket.

7Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:47 pm

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Even if kids are in the car, it should not be a ticketable offense.

And I cant stand people who smoke with kids in the car.

8Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:36 pm

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It is my vehicle and I would fight it under the constitution , Freedom of property it is not hurting anyone else who is not in the truck.

9Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:45 pm

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Since cigarettes are so bad for us why does our government not ban them outright? Revenue....gobs of it.

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10Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:55 pm

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Why does anyone think smoking is bad for you? That is just 1 opinion, and there are other opinions on that subject!

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11Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:00 am

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Miz point wrote:Since cigarettes are so bad for us why does our government not ban them outright? Revenue....gobs of it.

You might sat that Revenue Canada is addicted to tobacco taxes.

12Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:06 am

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Revenue on cigarettes, cigars and alcohool is huge. I hope in that 50 Billion dollar lawsuit just started in Ontario, that the Ontario government has given credit for the 55 billion in taxes that the government has collected , or in the counter claim that will be claimed, and the government will have to fork over that money!

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13Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:11 am

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Why do we not tax Crown Royal more haha, and have free cigars.

14Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:29 am

holly golightly

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I agree that if the trucker owns the vehicle and there is no one else in the vehicle, go ahead and smoke your face off. BUT if this said vehicle is a company owned vehicle then no smoking allowed.

15Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:47 am

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It's a 'work place' so...no smoking.

The law is an ass.

16Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:07 am

incognito

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Seems retarded, and petty. What's the difference between smoking in your car while on the way to work and smoking in a car some lilliputian bureacrat deemed to be your workplace?

17Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:42 am

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incognito wrote:Seems retarded, and petty. What's the difference between smoking in your car while on the way to work and smoking in a car some lilliputian bureacrat deemed to be your workplace?

Know what is even more retarded.
The government taxes the heck out of cigaretts, I wonder what the government would do if everyone quit smoking. The hit to the federal pocket book would be noticable. They would be scambling to find a new cash cow.

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18Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Empty Re: Nanny State Should BUTT OUT Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:53 am

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And there would be lots of really cranky people out there!!!!

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