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Liberal ads on TV

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1Liberal ads on TV Empty Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:01 pm

Deank

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anyone notice the new Liberal ads on TV?

Apparently they are trying to go the same route of GREEN again. No mention of taxes of course... but no mention of how to pay for their plan either.

2Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:06 pm

umcrouc0

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Haven't seen em yet. Do they mention anything specific?

3Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:09 pm

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4Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:09 pm

AGEsAces

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umcrouc0 wrote:Haven't seen em yet. Do they mention anything specific?

yes...here's some specifics:

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http://www.photage.ca

5Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:09 pm

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Deank wrote:anyone notice the new Liberal ads on TV?

Apparently they are trying to go the same route of GREEN again. No mention of taxes of course... but no mention of how to pay for their plan either.

What plan?

6Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:14 pm

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They're planning to have a plan.

7Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:16 pm

umcrouc0

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Nice. Maybe having some sort of platform would have been a good idea. Actually, for marketing reasons it's probably a good idea not to actually have any plan.

8Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:23 pm

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I don't think that not having a plan is a good idea in politics. Without a platform (a plan), it's pretty hard to convince voters you can run a government.

9Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:33 pm

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Isn't anyone serious? In this time of great importance? (quote from 1957 Diefenbaker speach)

http://www.elansofas.com

10Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:34 pm

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I think it's almost the opposite. If you release a plan it can be misrepresented by other parties. If you don't really release anything there's nothing for the other parties to attack you on. That was basically the entire conservative plan in the last federal election. Release something very late that has extremely few details in it and just talk about your opponents the whole time. It works.

11Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:34 pm

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I believe that was the problem with the Manitoba Conservatives in the last provincial election as well. No plan. It seemed that every announcement was a reaction of sorts to the issue du jour.

12Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:36 pm

grumpy old man

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It may have appeared to have "worked" but by rights the federal PCs should have done much better in that election... Who knows for sure?

13Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:37 pm

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Well, the majority of the public is pretty liberal (at least in Ontario where there are a lot of seats) so them being able to get in at all is pretty impressive.

14Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:47 pm

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Deank wrote:anyone notice the new Liberal ads on TV?

Apparently they are trying to go the same route of GREEN again. No mention of taxes of course... but no mention of how to pay for their plan either.
well, after applying for a job working at cornerstone technology (a green recycling place), i have no proublems supporting the green movement. The things people would put in their recycling recepticles is just ridiculous -- we're talking about dirty baby diapers and dog crap, etc. You name it.
If the liberals are going to try and do something about it, i would be all for it. Not only for the poor person who has to deal with the bullshit, but the whole system itself. If we're supporting green -- support it properly, please.

http://www.chrisgauthier.com

15Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:33 pm

Deank

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ahh but for the most part recycling in Canada is a government paid for program.. they sell the recyclables to recoup costs but its more of an expense then a money making venture. government expense= taxes

16Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:24 pm

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Depends. If you provide incentives for using recycled material you can drive up demand for it and influence the market which will bring more money into the recycling programs and reduce the amount of tax-support required.

17Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:54 pm

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"provide incentives "

tax dollars ( or less tax paid by business usually) so again something that COSTS the taxpayer money.

18Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:33 pm

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Deank wrote:"provide incentives "

tax dollars ( or less tax paid by business usually) so again something that COSTS the taxpayer money.

Normally when government incentives are put in place it's in the form or tax credits, not actual money sent to the companies.

19Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:38 pm

Deank

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thats what I said

20Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:39 pm

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The government should get the manufacturers to reduce packaging firstly.

21Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:03 pm

Deank

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you know how that fill your own bottle program has been a success for wine?

That would work great for many other things.

Beer, pop, milk, dish liquid, toilet paper rolls, heck tons of stuff.

22Liberal ads on TV Empty Re: Liberal ads on TV Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:16 pm

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Deank wrote:thats what I said

Ahh, yeah, sorry bout that. It evens out pretty much if the government is bringing in the extra recycling money while providing tax incentives for using the materials.

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