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New First Nations casino in western Manitoba

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grumpy old man

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Excellent. Just what Manitoba needs. Another casino. And imagine the jobs this will create for Manitoba's Aboriginals. Dozens of mindless minimum wage jobs. Man will that create long-lasting prosperity on the reserves eh?

Is there nothing else the chiefs can invest in that might bring higher skilled jobs and the resultant pay and transferable skills?

Why not a house manufacturing company. God knows the natives need housing. Why not create something that is a win-win-win proposition?

Such short sighted developments contribute little to the community IMO.

FlyingRat

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At least its something....

Electrician

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If they're the ones spending their loot in them, the loot is going right back to govt... Nice merry-go-round...

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It's been said before...not only are people addicted to gambling, so is the government.

LivingDead

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Why don't they spend their money on buying up farm land. start farming.. then they can hire all their reserve buddies to work the fields.

So many things they can do other than failed hotels and casino's that end up making their own people even poorer.

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AGEsAces

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LivingDead wrote:Why don't they spend their money on buying up farm land. start farming.. then they can hire all their reserve buddies to work the fields.

So many things they can do other than failed hotels and casino's that end up making their own people even poorer.

If they really wanted to work...they would get jobs already.

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Freeman

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This enfatuation with casinos is really mind boggling. How much is enough? How much is too much? Why not try to come up with some sort of sustainable enterprise? As eco-tourism increases, northern and isolated communities have a great opportunity.

Does anyone know how the Casino at Brokenhead is doing?

AGEsAces

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Freeman wrote:This enfatuation with casinos is really mind boggling. How much is enough? How much is too much? Why not try to come up with some sort of sustainable enterprise? As eco-tourism increases, northern and isolated communities have a great opportunity.

Does anyone know how the Casino at Brokenhead is doing?

They must be doing ok...they just finished building their hotel.

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I went by there numerous times this past summer and the parking lot was always full.

That says something about our addictive natures...a friggn' casino in the middle of nowhere and the place is full. tsk tsk tsk.

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Contributed 3.6 mill to the reserve last year and the jobs are needed the goverment got 2 .7 mill . This is a win win for the reserves as they get the profits at a larger scale then the goverment run ones in town . The four bands who split this good for them the US has done this for years and it works .

grumpy old man

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Apparantly all 65 reserves will reap the rewards. That spreads the wealth rather thin wouldn't you say? And please don't forget how this wealth was earned: gambling is not the smartest, most self-sustaining method. It is a tax on the weak.

And when the black-jack dealer making $10 an hour wants to find another job what do ya suppose the options are? Now train that same person to be a carpenter or an electrician or plumber. Do you suppose that persons options are significantly better?

Or we can turn a blind eye, dismiss other options out-of-hand because this concept "works elsewhere"???

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It seems to me that not all the cars in that parking lot were from retired multi-millionaires who didn't know what else to do with their money.

I'd reckon that most of the money being spent in the casino should be spent elsewhere...like on the mortgage or the rent; even possibly food.

Electrician

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or a CC roof...

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I'd reckon that most of the money being spent in the casino should be spent elsewhere...like on the mortgage or the rent; even possibly food.

So what is the differece with the ones in town , Gary Filmon started this evil and now the goverment is hooked . The last I heard there are training courses at Assinbion college gom and there lots who take them . Face it this the revenue stream of the time for goverment and it is here to stay .

grumpy old man

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Then by that logic we should open up ten, twenty more casinos, again because it's been done elsewhere? There are enough casinos in Manitoba. But THAT is not my point. The chiefs need to find OTHER ways of putting their people to work. I say let it be trade based. The trades are in HUGE demand right now and will be well into the future. I'd rather spend my taxes training people trades that will guarantee them good well paying jobs anywhere they go.

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No we should spend the money on what it was supposed to go to HEALTH CARE. Which the Filmon Government sold the plan on to the gullible masses . I have no problem with people wasting their money in these places for if not there some where else like Regina or the US. The problem gambler is a person who has the ability to get hooked on things be it pot or sniffing gas . It is a predetermined disposition of their mind. All that is needed is the thing or activity to bring it to the fore front .
There will be horror tales and there will be some we don't ever hear of . Taking it away will force us back to either illegal or going out of province .

grumpy old man

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If people will gamble anyway let's not make it that easy for them. Also keep in mind it is not the responsibility of the province to care for aboriginals health. That is Canada's domain.

Let's not pi$$ away the precious little resources available to these people and ignore giving them the ability to be self-sustaining through training and education.

EdWin

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grumpy old man wrote:If people will gamble anyway let's not make it that easy for them. Also keep in mind it is not the responsibility of the province to care for aboriginals health. That is Canada's domain.

Let's not pi$$ away the precious little resources available to these people and ignore giving them the ability to be self-sustaining through training and education.

But do the majority of aborigional want training and education, or a free ride from the gov't? They have been given handouts for so many years it's like an addiction; hard to quit.

Where is this casino being built?

grumpy old man

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Just outside Brandon city limits. AFTER Brandonites said NO to a casino in their city in TWO plebiscites. The NDP government needs to give its' head a friggen shake. The people of Brandon said they do not want a casino in their town and the province completely ignores that very strong message.

To your first comment EdWin, the chiefs brag this development will create hundreds of jobs for his people. These jobs pay what? Can a family be raised on these jobs? How sustainable are these jobs? How transferable are they?

holly golightly

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grumpy old man wrote:Then by that logic we should open up ten, twenty more casinos, again because it's been done elsewhere? There are enough casinos in Manitoba. But THAT is not my point. The chiefs need to find OTHER ways of putting their people to work. I say let it be trade based. The trades are in HUGE demand right now and will be well into the future. I'd rather spend my taxes training people trades that will guarantee them good well paying jobs anywhere they go.

Why is it the chief's responsibility to get the jobs for them? 

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grumpy old man wrote:Apparantly all 65 reserves will reap the rewards. That spreads the wealth rather thin wouldn't you say? And please don't forget how this wealth was earned: gambling is not the smartest, most self-sustaining method. It is a tax on the weak.

And when the black-jack dealer making $10 an hour wants to find another job what do ya suppose the options are? Now train that same person to be a carpenter or an electrician or plumber. Do you suppose that persons options are significantly better?

Or we can turn a blind eye, dismiss other options out-of-hand because this concept "works elsewhere"???

Casino Rama money is spread to all Ontario first nations and it doesn't do much. You will not see any changes here. My friend applied at South Beach recently and discovered they start you at $9 an hour. She did not accept the job.

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Sounds just like the rant before they let slots in the bars, how many years ago. The city of Brandon had its chance and lost it , now if there was a good old white family involved out there my family tells me it would go. Brandon just doesn't want the natives involved period .
There will be addicts no matter what , some in Brandon now go to the one in the states and some go to Regina for the weekend . Well I don't belittle your problem more, won't make it worse as like smoking it is always there.

Electrician

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There are tons of casinos in Slovenia right next to the border...

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Is the parking good ?

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